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    Default Rather tasty version of the SP10!

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    So who thinks measurements don't matter?
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    It's 10K for the platter and motor unit and another 10K for the arm and plinth. From the linked to review I wouldn't say the plinth and arm seem like a very worthwhile buy.
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    I wouldn't get too hung up on the wow and flutter figures: they're very good, but not an order of magnitude better than what you can reasonably expect from other manufacturers. No mention of rumble figures.

    I have little faith in the capability of the reviewer - if the Technics arm has an effective length of 10", that's 254mm in new money; clearly there was a misprint in the data sheet.
    Barry

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    I love that he uses reel to reel tape as a reference for speed stability in his 'review', an area in which it pales in accuracy to CD and all other digital formats. Not the most technical Fremer. Likewise I don't trust his phone app to give anywhere near an accurate speed measurement.
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    "It sounded as it measured, with a reel-to-reel tape-like rhythmic consistency and accuracy that produced severe relaxation and unprecedented, in my experience, low listener fatigue"

    Nothing wrong with that Simon. I know exactly what he means, as I have switched most of my listening from vinyl (Platine Verdier) to R2R (several studio machines - Studer A820, A807/II, Otari MTR12, and Sony APR 5003). Tape has a constant linear velocity at say 15 IPS, as opposed to a record having a constant angular velocity (33.33 RPM = 200 degrees per sec). Speed stability can be an audible issue on vinyl e.g. on piano, where you can hear subtle tone variation - you generally don't get that on tape (although you can get scrape flutter on R2R).
    R2R: Studer A820 1/2 inch 2 track; Otari MTR-12 1/4 inch 2 track; Sony APR 5003; Sony APR 5002; Studer A807/II. Vinyl: Platine Verdier Allaerts MC1B/Schroeder Reference & Model 2 Decca C4E/Hadcock 228 TRON Seven Reference phono. Keith Monks MkII RCM Other analogue source: Nakamichi Dragon with ANT4066 mods. Amplification: TRON Meteor preamp TRON Voyager 20B SET power. Speakers: Avantgarde Duo. Digital: computing at last with Prism Sound Lyra 2 A2D converter

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