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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    If you've got all the Steely Dan, Led Zep and Hendrix you can pretty much do without the rest.


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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    I find the likes of Deezer or any of the others invaluable for exposing yourself to new stuff. It's like your personal old grey whistle test and your bob Harris. Lol
    Ha - indeed, but Martin's not for streaming either. Don't worry, we'll drag him kicking and screaming into the 21st century somehow!

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    Well, being into music for the sake of it is a young man's game IMO. By the time your 40 you've seen it / heard it all before. Done better, usually. I still buy records but it is almost always old stuff I never got round to buying when it was new. Or more recently, to replace what already I have on vinyl with the CD.

    Any genuine exploration I do now is pretty much limited to Jazz. And I'm already too old to have time to even scratch the surface there
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    Ive never really liked the term popular music as its a lazy catch all term invented a long time ago. There is plenty of good new indie music about from people with real imagination. I use the term indie to somehow define it away from pop but its all popular music in that sense.

    I also think we have to discuss that what sells the most is not the definition of good taste. Nobody ever went broke by underestimating the taste/intelligence of.......... or how that quote goes. Plenty of number one records have been absolute crap

    I think we probably have to define who the main culprits are and whether they are linked to the Fuller/ Cowell production machine I hate so much. The music companies do seem to be churning the crap out faster than ever before or may be thats just my perception.

    The industry produce what sells so I cant really call them dark and sinister profiteers. We are all out to make some sort of living in this world. Maybe I feel that people are being told what to like on BGT so they buy it.

    Madonna and Britney seem laughably innocent compared to this new lot but there has been a lot of so called popular music in the past that I considered to be shallow rubbish.

    A lot of it sells to very young people and to be blunt I dont consider their musical brains fully formed. I hope they grow out of it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minstrel SE View Post
    there has been a lot of so called popular music in teh past that I considered shallow rubbish
    Ah, yes. That would be Mozart and others like him. The 'pop music' of the day.

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    I thought again and I really am coming over as snobby and elitist. We really can over analyse these things but with all music you either like it or you dont.

    Lets leave it that Im at an age when I can ask the youngsters to turn that racket down

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minstrel SE View Post
    I thought again and I really am coming over as snobby and elitist. We really can over analyse these things but with all music you either like it or you dont.

    Lets leave it that Im at an age when I can ask the youngsters to turn that racket down
    Sometimes the youngsters ask me to turn my bloody racket down
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratmangler View Post
    Sometimes the youngsters ask me to turn my bloody racket down
    They're probably tired of listening to the same Bay City Rollers album over and over.

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    It all went pear-shaped around the time the Smiths split up. They were the last quality singles group.

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