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  1. #1
    Join Date: Mar 2017

    Location: Liverpool

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    I'm Sandro.

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    Just had Ben around (AKA Zoidburg )

    Mini Liverpool bake off
    Hardware
    Avid Volvere SMEV
    Paradise R3 / Tron Convergence
    Pass Labs XP10
    BK F5
    Polk LSi15
    Cables Ben's Klotz /QED X tubes and same powermains from AGDA and B&U






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    Just a few hours listening to same vinyl
    Started up whit Dark Side of the Moon and ended whit Black Sabbath and a few in between from Miles Davies Pavlov's Dogs and Virgin Prunes

    After a few tracks the Convergence was left on ... Is it good ?
    Firebottle I need a word whit you !!!! yes it is that good

    I suppose the neighbours are happier now that it is over at 8.5 Volts output whit the V06 it was plenty loud.

    Sorry for them, I have to do same room acoustic but not until spring, but look forward to same more.

    I was hoping to get a pair of Maggies 1.7 on loan but that has been put off due Flue next time maybe

    Nice meeting Ben we got to do this again ...
    Any one near by just PM.

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    Join Date: Feb 2013

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    Always good to see meet ups.
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  3. #3
    Join Date: Aug 2009

    Location: Staffordshire, England

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    I'm Martin.

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    Whereabouts are you in Liverpool, Sandro?
    Current Lash Up:

    TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > JM Labs Focal Electra 926.

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    Join Date: Mar 2017

    Location: Liverpool

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    I'm Sandro.

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    Macca
    you have PM
    BTW Is there a way to post bigger pictures
    "How to post bigger pictures for dummies" would be best

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    Yes that Firebottle-Tron is VERY good. Had it on loan for a week and was the first time I experienced holographic sound. How did it compare to the Paradise? Favourably I presume due to staying plugged in





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    Join Date: Feb 2011

    Location: Liverpool, Merseyside.

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    I'm Ben.

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    That was a lovely afternoon Sandro, you were a great host thanks.

    Some interesting tunes (a few things I'd never heard before so I'll check them out again on tidal) and a very good sounding system, again mostly kit I'd not come across before.

    The paradise phono stage I know nothing about but it was interested to compare and contrast between that and the Tron. For my money the Tron seemed to have a fuller weightier & more 3d sound to it. I also found it a bit more grin inducing if you get my drift.

    I've invited Sandro over to mine next week for a "rematch" so hopefully that will work out.

    Cheers again

    Ben

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    Technics SL1210 with
    SME IV Arm & AT OC9XML,
    Firebottle modded Tron Convergence Phono Stage,
    Bluesound Node 2i, Technics SL DZ 1200 CD
    Denon PMA1700ne amp
    Yamaha NS1000M Speakers.

  7. #7
    Join Date: Mar 2017

    Location: Liverpool

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    I'm Sandro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoidburg View Post

    The paradise phono stage I know nothing about but it was interested to compare and contrast between that and the Tron. For my money the Tron seemed to have a fuller weightier & more 3d sound to it. I also found it a bit more grin inducing if you get my drift.

    I've invited Sandro over to mine next week for a "rematch" so hopefully that will work out.

    Cheers again

    Ben

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    How good was the Tron??? You got to read between the lines
    Maybe equal levels, the Tron has a bit more gain than the paradise would have made it more even (not being confrontational just point to be dully noted)

    Yes it was good I quite agree about the Tron what can I say apart that I did not ask for a swap the second time what more can I say ...
    a yes now that I remember
    I have already been in touch whit Firebbotle Both Phone and PM (that was quick) as Ben said the Tron has had a bit of mods carried out by him
    Landlord! I will have same of that as well please

  8. #8
    Join Date: Mar 2017

    Location: Liverpool

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    I'm Sandro.

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    Just had a look at the Convergence Specifications
    Ben is yours the 68 or 74 db Gain ?
    If that the case loudness issue is well explained and need no further comments

    Still as mentioned Valve verses Solid State Imo
    No contest Valves do it for me as well
    Can I have the Firebbotle treatment (any reference to Stanley Kubrick is purely by chance of same chemical imbalance in your perverted minds) to the Paradise.

    Looking forward to next week

  9. #9
    Join Date: Feb 2011

    Location: Liverpool, Merseyside.

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    I'm Ben.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bksabath View Post
    Just had a look at the Convergence Specifications
    Ben is yours the 68 or 74 db Gain ?
    If that the case loudness issue is well explained and need no further comments

    Still as mentioned Valve verses Solid State Imo
    No contest Valves do it for me as well
    Can I have the Firebbotle treatment (any reference to Stanley Kubrick is purely by chance of same chemical imbalance in your perverted minds) to the Paradise.

    Looking forward to next week
    Not sure about the gain mate, I'll look into it.

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    Technics SL1210 with
    SME IV Arm & AT OC9XML,
    Firebottle modded Tron Convergence Phono Stage,
    Bluesound Node 2i, Technics SL DZ 1200 CD
    Denon PMA1700ne amp
    Yamaha NS1000M Speakers.

  10. #10
    Join Date: Mar 2017

    Location: Liverpool

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    I'm Sandro.

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    Is not big deal really is just accademical issue
    IMO post 12 from Oliver 100%

    No sorry cancel all that
    Joke
    Your Tron is not that good and if you ever realise that you may decide to sell it I be glad to recycle it for you
    How much ?
    End of joke

    Hey if you do I have first shout at it. seriously!

    May have to borrow the Luxman from Doug Brady for next week to tempt you ?

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