I think the reason that many people find themselves skipping tracks is that most albums are flawed in some way. I would say that only a fraction of my cds stand up as a complete piece of work that I will listen to from first to last track. In the days of vinyl, it was too much of a faff to skip tracks but I know that even then I would tend to favour one side of an album over another. When cds arrived I would routinely skip certain tracks that were fillers or just didn't sit well in the flow of music. These days, I do not see many cds following the album format with a clear progression of music and some unifying theme. Streaming doesn't mean you have to skip tracks and the fact that many people do suggest that the skipped tracks don't stand up to repeated playing. I agree, that there are some artists and some pieces of work that really need to be played through as a complete piece of work, but they are rare, and, dare I say, becoming rarer!
Geoff
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I'm Dave.
Is the object to save space, by ripping and disposing of the originals? Possible technical legal problems with that - but probably nobody will really bother.
If you have a loft with enough space you could simply keep the original CDs, which would then be their own archives, having ripped the CDs to computer storage. That way you'd have the archive, and also the benefit - if such it is - of being able to acceess all the contents quickly. There could be issues if the loft gets very cold or very hot, or very damp - but not all lofts do. There are plastic boxes which will easily hold 50 CDs at a time, and they could be used in lofts. Admittedly the cost of storing the originals in that way would probably be about 10p per CD - if the plastic boxes work out at around £5 each, though some CD/DVD/SACD box sets would also go in, and reduce the overall cost per disc as they would be more densely packed.
Note also that at the present time it is still actually illegal to rip CDs in the UK - a somewhat retrograde step in legislation - even for personal/private use. I don't think too many people care though.
For myself I spent some time ripping a lot of CDs a few years ago, but despite that I have for the time being gone back to just playing the CDs in my player. I don't know why! It seems simpler, perhaps.
Dave
I'm not even thinking about recent music....for example Saxophone Colossus / Sonny Rollins....I find myself playing just Moritat yet the the whole album is stunning. By not playing the whole album I'm not as satisfied but have more instant gratification. The result is that I play my vinyl version as a way to enforce my good behaviour.
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Thank you to everyone for a most interesting thread. I can understand why some of you would be shocked at me getting rid of the whole lot but my feelings about my collection have changed over the last year.
I used to be proud of my collection, it was almost an extension of myself, a definition of who i am in effect. But lately i've actually started to resent it's hulking presence in my living room. It was a reminder to me that the obsessive cd buying was actually an illness.
I was actually really embaressed to discover whilst going through the lot with Tom that a quite a few of them were still in there wrappers!! Thats just madness!!
I'm really glad there gone.
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Did that once upon s time with records. When I realised I had a lot I'd never played I stopped buying and sold a lot They were not new but new to me
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Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?
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Yup I play more music with Deezer or my flac files than I did using the cds or vinyl. I don't know why. It's not as touchy feely but it seems to leave me free to just listen. Ive put most of my vinyl away and intend doing same with cds. Will keep them tho as I'm not ready yet to sell
Regards,
Grant .... ؠ ......Don't be such a big girl's blouse
I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work.... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
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Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?
“Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".
“You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”
"You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”
“There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”
***SMILE, BE HAPPY***
Surely this is a problem of your own making and not a problem with streaming per se. I just don't understand how a strength of streaming from a digital archive can be presented as a weakness: namely, the flexibility to instantly access whole albums; an artist's complete repertoire; a genre; a playlist; or just tracks at random. To enforce "good behaviour" seems a bit odd to me!
On the storage side, the Really Useful Box Company offer a range of really strong boxes for CD storage. If you are storing them in an unheated loft of garage, don't forget to drop a decent sized bag of silica gel to stop condensation. It's amazing how damp the cd inserts can get if left in long term storage without such precautions.
Geoff
I've not called it a weakness. It just doesn't help me listen to music in a good way or a way that I feel is good. Sure that's just me. That's said I do fight it and listen to files as well as vinyl.
TT 1 Trans-Fi Salvation with magnetic bearing + Trans-Fi Terminator T3Pro + London Reference
TT 2 Garrard 301 with NWA main bearing + Audiomods Series Six 10.5" + Ortofon 2M Mono SE
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Pre and Power Amp EWA M40P + M40A
Bass Amp & DSP Behringer iNuke NU3000DSP x 2
Speakers 1 Bastanis Sagarmatha Duo with twin baffleless 15" bass drivers per side
Speakers 2 MarkaudioSota Viotti Tower