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    The things I love in music or hifi is those big dynamic changes in the music the type that gives a shiver down your spine and hearing that sweet stereo separation but I also love warm sounding hifi it makes it seem alot more realistic and smooth, can vinyl deliver that same kind of punch you get with CDs or is it more flat and lifeless?
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    CDs reflect exactly what the artists recorded in the studio. Vinyl distorts it

    Is he for real with this statement , He MUST have that round the wrong way

    CD ( Compromised Disc ) shave off the high frequency and the low frequency then compress the life out of it and squeeze in on a shiny disc
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    Quote Originally Posted by James the Albarry lover View Post
    I find this article interesting if not abit one sided http://now.tufts.edu/articles/does-m...yl-records-cds
    it is pretty much spot on apart from where he mentions wear on vinyl from playing it. IIRC someone somewhere did some tests and it was something like 1000 plays before there was any audible degradation - using a properly set up and unworn cartridge of course. So I don't really think that is a factor.

    The other thing missing is overuse of compression on CD versions to make it sound 'louder'. The vinyl version will be compromised in different ways, but a CD with massive amounts of compression is unlistenable on good equipment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Audio Al View Post
    CDs reflect exactly what the artists recorded in the studio. Vinyl distorts it

    Is he for real with this statement , He MUST have that round the wrong way

    CD ( Compromised Disc ) shave off the high frequency and the low frequency then compress the life out of it and squeeze in on a shiny disc
    Yes I agree with you there he's very one sided wasted my time reading but was a laugh non the less
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    Quote Originally Posted by Audio Al View Post
    CDs reflect exactly what the artists recorded in the studio. Vinyl distorts it

    Is he for real with this statement , He MUST have that round the wrong way

    CD ( Compromised Disc ) shave off the high frequency and the low frequency then compress the life out of it and squeeze in on a shiny disc
    No he's correct, if you leave the compression aside, and very few cds are compressed to death anyway. No frequencies are removed on a CD.
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    A few friends of mine are heavily into hi-fi and vinyl replay and they all agree, as do I, vinyl is indeed a ritual and almost a lifestyle choice when it comes to music. It is not a throw away fad and I doubt ever has been so. However,
    with most things like classic cars and classic motorcycles, do not ever think it is an easy ride and therefore an easy journey. If that is what you are expecting, by all means get involved but be prepared to be highly disappointed. This media requires a certain dedication and commitment both in terms of extreme patience and cash as I doubt you will ever be satisfied with your phono stage and may never even be satisfied with your turntable. You will though be part of a group of people who do not do things because they are easy or convenient.

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    OK, regarding CD sound versus vinyl sound I can only draw attention to 'Amused to Death' by Roger Waters. Yeah, yeah, CD a tenner vinyl thirty six quid...! On this album there is an explosion in some supposed North African market.
    On CD that explosion is highly compressed and rather like a vegan's fart. On vinyl you really do need to watch your drive units. The vinyl is highly risky compared to the CD. I have both versions of this album and also the orginal 1984 version.
    The vinyl is bloody stunning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haselsh1 View Post
    A few friends of mine are heavily into hi-fi and vinyl replay and they all agree, as do I, vinyl is indeed a ritual and almost a lifestyle choice when it comes to music. It is not a throw away fad and I doubt ever has been so. However,
    with most things like classic cars and classic motorcycles, do not ever think it is an easy ride and therefore an easy journey. If that is what you are expecting, by all means get involved but be prepared to be highly disappointed. This media requires a certain dedication and commitment both in terms of extreme patience and cash as I doubt you will ever be satisfied with your phono stage and may never even be satisfied with your turntable. You will though be part of a group of people who do not do things because they are easy or convenient.
    Nicely put Shaun. You are also spot on regarding Amused to death!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haselsh1 View Post
    OK, regarding CD sound versus vinyl sound I can only draw attention to 'Amused to Death' by Roger Waters. Yeah, yeah, CD a tenner vinyl thirty six quid...! On this album there is an explosion in some supposed North African market.
    On CD that explosion is highly compressed and rather like a vegan's fart. On vinyl you really do need to watch your drive units. The vinyl is highly risky compared to the CD. I have both versions of this album and also the orginal 1984 version.
    The vinyl is bloody stunning.
    I always love comparisons between hifi and farts alot of magazines should go about reviewing hifi in this fashion I think
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haselsh1 View Post
    On CD that explosion is highly compressed and rather like a vegan's fart. On vinyl you really do need to watch your drive units. The vinyl is highly risky compared to the CD. I have both versions of this album and also the orginal 1984 version.
    The vinyl is bloody stunning.
    Interesting... So could the digital fanboys amongst us proffer a credible hypothesis as to what may be occurring there?

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