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    So glad you got there Oli, 'He can't have all the credit though! Telefunken must get some too ', I'll have to bow to that one.

    Firebottle - for the no bottleneck approach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebottle View Post


    So glad you got there Oli, 'He can't have all the credit though! Telefunken must get some too ', I'll have to bow to that one.

    I tried the Tesla and as good as they are, the Telefunken are cleaner. Nice options to have though. Plus, my valve draw is filling up!

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    Technics SP10 MK2 > Phonomac AT-1010 tonearm > Ortofon Kontrapunkt b > Rothwell MCX SUT > Wizard MM Valve Phonostage (Telefunken Valves) > Slagle AVC Passive Preamp > Firebottle Monoblocks (Telefunken Valves) > IXOS Speaker Cables > Pioneer CS-77A Speakers > Oliver's IC Cables Throughout

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigman80 View Post
    Conclusion

    As I sit here basking in the glorious sweet sound of my new phono stage, I thought it only fair to give a conclusion of what's gone on with it and where it stands now.

    Well, to start off, when this was built and being tested and played I felt just enough confidence to sell the Jolida on. It wasn't confidence in the Phonostage itself, oh no, that sounded a little small on the sound stage and resolution wasn't on a par with the Jolida either. It was also a little too vague with the treble. My confidence came from a chat with Mr Firebottle, who convinced me that his mods would open and expand this suckers sound stage, improve the resolution and bring out it's best version of itself.

    He was very right.

    He can't have all the credit though! Telefunken must get some too because even though the Tesla valves are superb for 25 a pair, they are not on the Telefunken level. Crystal clean sound. HF extension and bass to dive for (because it's soooo deep) and the MIDs are pure valve tone. Unrivalled in my experience. Not warm just transparent and sweet.

    Playing "Summertime" by Duke Ellington brings a trumpet sound the likes of which have been unheard of in my home. Clarinets, oboes and any other instrument I name have pure unyielding tone. The breath of the player diminishes at the end of the note and the detailed decay of his efforts to hold the note is apparent and captivating. The echos of the auditorium where it was recorded, bounce and reverb and if I close my eyes, I feel the space.

    "A day in the life" The Beatles - John Lennon wrote this song and sang it to me today. I can see him sat at his piano, looking forward and singing into the microphone. The panning sensation as he moves his head and the impact the hammer has on the piano wire is vivid and Holographic. The way the orchestra build up to the Middle eight is cacophonous and when Paul McCartney sings about having a cup of tea and catching the bus, I'm with him, on the commute. The final note is a multitude of pianos playing the same note in different octaves. There were more pianos today than there has been before, ever.

    The truth is, Alan suggested linearity is the key to a phonostage performing at its best and whatever he did today to this phono stage is magical. It's also a mystery!

    The Wizard cost ......... probably maybe 250-350, not counting all the free hours of Alan's time he spent on the PS and getting the RIAA EQ right (it's still not quite accurate but it'll be done shortly) add the cost of the valves 130ish and it's adding up BUT it's right up there with the very best I've heard and that's me done. No more buying phonostages. It's really that good to me. I love it. I may be tempted to re-home the guts into a smaller enclosure and will definitely add a power button but other than that, i am one happy bunny.

    The project has been enlightening and educational. I'm not up to scratch but I definitely hold more knowledge now than ever before. My respect for ANYONE who builds and designs these things is at the highest level. It's a labour of love.

    I highly recommend a project like this if you're interested in improving your knowledge but suggest you have someone you can call or converse with if you get stuck. Mr Firebottle, you are a legend. Thanks for all of your help. Again! 🤣


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    Thanks Neil, it's really good. I was a little bit in shock at how good it is. I'm very pleased and yes, guru is right.

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    Last edited by Bigman80; 10-01-2018 at 10:17.
    Technics SP10 MK2 > Phonomac AT-1010 tonearm > Ortofon Kontrapunkt b > Rothwell MCX SUT > Wizard MM Valve Phonostage (Telefunken Valves) > Slagle AVC Passive Preamp > Firebottle Monoblocks (Telefunken Valves) > IXOS Speaker Cables > Pioneer CS-77A Speakers > Oliver's IC Cables Throughout

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigman80 View Post
    ... guru is tight.
    Oi, I haven't touched a drop .........


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    Lol

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    Technics SP10 MK2 > Phonomac AT-1010 tonearm > Ortofon Kontrapunkt b > Rothwell MCX SUT > Wizard MM Valve Phonostage (Telefunken Valves) > Slagle AVC Passive Preamp > Firebottle Monoblocks (Telefunken Valves) > IXOS Speaker Cables > Pioneer CS-77A Speakers > Oliver's IC Cables Throughout

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    Nice new power button. Mmmmm. Nice

    New RCA plug sockets too. I'll put a pic on tomorrow
    Technics SP10 MK2 > Phonomac AT-1010 tonearm > Ortofon Kontrapunkt b > Rothwell MCX SUT > Wizard MM Valve Phonostage (Telefunken Valves) > Slagle AVC Passive Preamp > Firebottle Monoblocks (Telefunken Valves) > IXOS Speaker Cables > Pioneer CS-77A Speakers > Oliver's IC Cables Throughout

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    A little development has taken place. The Wizard will now have a JFET MC stage fitted to convert it from MM to MC. After spending a lot of time with different HA's and SUTs, I really feel this approach offers the best of both worlds and I can't seem to find any reason it's not as good as any other method I've tried.

    The Circuit Design is being kindly donated by Firebottle from his improved Vivant and this unit has largely been responsible for my decision to go down that route.

    The Vivant has been tweaked to improve the function of the JFET input and has been very successful in lowering the background noise and cleaning up the signal. This was something that came to light after using a Valve HA with the Vivant, which instantaneously highlighted the flaws of the previous arrangement and demonstrated what is possible when the signal is processed well.

    The result is an incredibly clean sounding stage with space and flow. The fluid nature of the SUTs I tried seems to still be present although a slightly presentation and the enhanced sound I experienced with the HA is completely absent. Timbral qualities have improved and the lower level detail is now apparent rather than masked. I am really looking forward to seeing what this will do to the Wizard.

    It's a compromise of the good bits of both SUTs and Headamps but it'll be the end game for this phonostage. As long as it's as good as in the Vivant


    Technics SP10 MK2 > Phonomac AT-1010 tonearm > Ortofon Kontrapunkt b > Rothwell MCX SUT > Wizard MM Valve Phonostage (Telefunken Valves) > Slagle AVC Passive Preamp > Firebottle Monoblocks (Telefunken Valves) > IXOS Speaker Cables > Pioneer CS-77A Speakers > Oliver's IC Cables Throughout

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