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    I'm all for blowing my money on hifi but I'm curious about how big a difference main conditioner make to your system, I use a cheap one myself and noticed a nice improvement in sound quality but are the more expensive ones worth it?
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    I've heard some that made no difference and one that cleaned up the bass noticeably, not in my set up I would add. Whether they are worth it is a personal thing. My set up sounds so good I don't think I could take any more improvements
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    Quote Originally Posted by James the Albarry lover View Post
    I'm all for blowing my money on hifi but I'm curious about how big a difference main conditioner make to your system, I use a cheap one myself and noticed a nice improvement in sound quality but are the more expensive ones worth it?
    If your mains is good then it's money wasted, if it's all over the place then maybe it will make a big difference. I have a regenerator and good mains so I use it for regulating my valve testers, cant be bothered on the hifi as it seems just another lump!

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    There was a thread on here a few years back regards mains re generators v balanced mains.

    The Scottish boys(aka mafia) quite often get together and try different things.

    Most of us bought airlink ballanced mains transformers......ugly bastards-but great vfm and clean up your mains as mentioned if they are a bit shitty.

    Any members near you that could lend a wee hand?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazid View Post
    If your mains is good then it's money wasted, if it's all over the place then maybe it will make a big difference. I have a regenerator and good mains so I use it for regulating my valve testers, cant be bothered on the hifi as it seems just another lump!

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    ^ this is basically true. Have a look around your immediate neighbourhood for businesses that use heavy machinery etc, or blocks of flats; that sort of thing. If there are a few then there is a fair chance it will help. Ive a mains regenerator and it helps mine a fair bit.
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    There is a few large businesses around my area and I know a few hifi nuts nearby that might have something along those lines cheers
    MY SYSTEM
    SOURCES: Marantz cd63 mk2 ki, Marantz cd6000ose
    AMPLIFICATION: Albarry m408s mono blocs with ap3 pre
    CABLES: Chord company c-line, Monster interlink 400, QED silver speaker cable, Tacima cs947 mains conditioner
    SPEAKERS: Mission 752 freedoms, AKG K550 mk2 headphones

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    I would start by taking your Tacima mains filtering strip out of your system, not the other way around.

    There are many other things that will have much more of an impact on your system, but if you do want to try, then I'd say balanced mains of at least 1.5KVA is the way to go. Conditioners tend to 'sit on' the sound and affect dynamics.

    Interestingly I plugged in an Amazon Fire TV stick into my Tacima (I use it for my TV & router), which forced it into a slow power-saving mode - it's because it checks for current ability, which the Tacima obviously interfered with - back into a wall socket & the Fire TV worked perfectly again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yomanze View Post
    I would start by taking your Tacima mains filtering strip out of your system, not the other way around.
    Those Tacima blocks can really suck the life out of your system...
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    PS Audio P300 was my start which led me to upgrade to a PS Audio PPP then the awesome P10.

    Now I have the even better Audio Magic Transcendence.
    Plus various cheapo plug ins around the also improve the sound. -Which I thought would be redundant after the AM but no.
    Seems whatever I added made the sound better
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