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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Ok, so bearing in mind you're talking largely to a technology numptie, what is LMS, and would the PiCoreplayer replace Moode - and if so how?

    Marco.
    LMS is Logitech Media Server, think of it as a replacement for moode, although it's open source and is packaged by different distributors, piCorePlayer, MaX2play etc

    I run LMS (piCorePlayer 3.20) centrally on an Rpi3 running only LMS , this references my NAS library, and also Spotify account (via another open source API called spotty). You can make this a stand alone player or, as I do, have it feeding multiple players/streamers, in my case a mixture of SBTouches, and RPis, amongst which is pi2 with an IQaudio HAT.

    Integrating your FLAC collection and streaming services at the music server/LMS means that all sources are available via the same playlist on the same streamer...or any of the 4.

    P.S. there's a new plugin for lossless radio paradise available for LMS too

    All controllable from a smartphone/tablet app, browser, IR SB remote, or finally SBtouch screen...spotify just appears as another catalogue, you don't have to switch to a spotify interface...
    Cheers, Will

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    Thanks. I get most of that, but wouldn't have a clue how to go about replacing what I've got with it - or even if I'd want to, lol. I'm happy with things are they are

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Thanks. I get most of that, but wouldn't have a clue how to go about replacing what I've got with it - or even if I'd want to, lol. I'm happy with things are they are

    Marco.
    One for the future perhaps...
    Cheers, Will

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    Perhaps, but you're into the whole file-based audio thing more than me

    Btw, just for reference, I listened again to Amazon music, and Spotify now sounds notably better.

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    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Perhaps, but you're into the whole file-based audio thing more than me

    Btw, just for reference, I listened again to Amazon music, and Spotify now sounds notably better.

    Marco.
    It's a bit of a work/hobby overlap...

    If my facts are right Amazon Prime is 256kb/s, and Spotify Premium is 310kb/s, which explains things...
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    Probably depends on how they are being streamed too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WAD62 View Post
    Seconded!

    The ability to integrate spotify into the same playlist/player as your NAS flac library makes spotify a much more appealing option for me, via the spotty plugin it's much more album centric...and it provides the benefits from whatever 'upgrades' you've made to your lossless streamer, (USB isolation and cables, PSU, etc.), to your spotify source too, it just acts as an additional library for LMS
    Spotify runs very nicely with Mopidy, I partiularly like the 'Iris' interface to bring it all together. It's a slightly more advanced than basic configuration but not actually difficult.

    Hopefully once the dietpi guys have got moode running properly we'll be able to have all these wonderful things ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim View Post
    Spotify uses the .ogg format which most agree is superior to .mp3 like for like. So 320kbps .ogg on a level playing field 'should' sound superior to 320kbps .mp3. Now it's not something I have researched recently, but Amazon used to stream .mp3 at 256kbps, so logic dictates it should be inferior to Spotify, which my testing confirmed - it was quite clear too.
    That's interesting, I didn't know about the different format that Spotify uses.
    It certainly has always sounded better to me than MP3, and quite substantially so - it really does sound CD Quality to me.
    And yes, as I previously said, Amazon Music trails a long way behind.
    Maybe I'm not deaf after all.
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    I also tested Amazon music on my system and Spotify was very audibly superior .
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    Yeah, that's 99p I won't see again.

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