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    WP_20171126_18_57_00_Pro.jpgWP_20171116_10_51_10_Pro.jpgThe Abbey Road Studios RIP OFF
    I have bought a copy of Free Fire and water and compared tothe original Island ILPS9120 that it was going to replace I have found it to beCompressed lifeless dull and distorted
    The hi frequencies that the super duper A4 certificate somuch brag about is not there
    And the hi quality of that piece of paper whit the nice goldstamp preclude any more practical use for it.
    The record run off is about 3 times larger than in theoriginal and this is a clear sign of poor mastering.
    This is what Michael Fremerhave to say about the Rolling Stone Issue
    https://www.analogplanet.com/content/new-exile-main-street-%C2%A0using-original-analog-master-tape-doubtful
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    First, it's obvious that an advertising copy writerhas gotten his hands on a list of audiophile vernacular and he (or she) issprinkling it liberally and thoughtlessly.
    The claim made here is that the original master tapes have been used to producethese half speed mastered cuts. Is that true? I very much doubt it. Ithink what's being used are digital files sourced at some point from the tapes.That would be very different from what's being claimed. Different enough in myopinion, that if what I think is happening here is true, it constitutes at bestdeception and at worst outright fraud.
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    I bet what's being used hereare 96/24 files made at some point from the master tapes. Which files? And madeby whom? Are these the same files used to cut lacquers for a truly horrible,dynamically squashed Exile On Mainstream box set issued a few years ago?If so, it doesn't matter if the cut is 1/2 speed, full speed, double time, 800xor whatever. It will still suck.
    Until we get an Exile on Main Street cutfrom the tapes and without dynamic compression, we should not be supportingthis kind of project—even if it was truthfully, not deceptively marketed. Thatgoes for the entire series in my opinion.
    Itis sad to see the great Abbey Road Studios name get muddied.
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    I'm so glad you posted this, I was considering a copy. Won't be buying it now! Thank you for sharing.

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    I'm very happy with my half speed mastered copy of Fire & Water.
    There's no secret about the source being the recent digital transfer by Andy Pearce.
    http://www.superdeluxeedition.com/ne...-by-universal/
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    Rip off!!! Blimey Bit strong!!
    I bought the John Martyn Solid Air
    And thought it was fantastic!! Vastly improved on the original (although other(s) on AOS disagree)
    I was very happy with the work they did...
    The Eno records have also been given a great thumbs up from
    People I know have purchased them.
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    I must admit to getting increasing more skeptical with respects to the heritage of ALL new vinyl. I now find myself buying increasing older vinyl pre 1965 if possible and I always try and seek out new vinyl re-pressed from master tapes or cut direct to disc if possible. I'm a jazz fan so this can be VERY expensive at times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by REXTON View Post
    I must admit to getting increasing more skeptical with respects to the heritage of ALL new vinyl. I now find myself buying increasing older vinyl pre 1965 if possible and I always try and seek out new vinyl re-pressed from master tapes or cut direct to disc if possible. I'm a jazz fan so this can be VERY expensive at times.
    I'm also a jazz fan, many older recordings can be bettered by modern pressings imho
    The music matters and analogue production pressings (flipping expensive £50 +) actually for me improve many titles in the Prestige (used shite recycled wax by all accounts) and Blue Note catalogues .. you have to be very careful with new viny reissues, lots came from CD source and never went back to the tapes..and miss the mark completely.
    Lots of poor pressings from dodgy companies who have cashed in on the copyright grey area. But I personally think the Abbey Road thing is a quality reissue program.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratmangler View Post
    I'm very happy with my half speed mastered copy of Fire & Water.
    There's no secret about the source being the recent digital transfer by Andy Pearce.
    http://www.superdeluxeedition.com/ne...-by-universal/
    Good for you if you like it.
    I did not and will be returning it
    Others here will not buy a copy
    Michael Framer review is now a bit more public

    But do not think that this make me happy
    What I would really like is that they did a proper job of it instead off ripping people off

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    Quote Originally Posted by WESTLOWER View Post
    Rip off!!! Blimey Bit strong!!

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    No do not thing so, Fraud as in Michael Framer piece would be more to the point

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bksabath View Post
    What I would really like is that they did a proper job of it instead off ripping people off
    A proper job?
    What constitutes a proper job in your opinion?

    And last, how are they ripping people off?
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    My copy of Fire and Water is fine
    Music , fills the gaps between silence !

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