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    Default would anyone loan me an mc sut for a trial please?

    as above id like to try one but unsure what to go for,they seem expensive for what they are so im asking if one kind sole would let me have a loan,no longer than a few days to see if it improves on my mc stage in the pre amp.
    thanks
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    Default would anyone loan me an mc sut for a trial please?

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    as above id like to try one but unsure what to go for,they seem expensive for what they are so im asking if one kind sole would let me have a loan,no longer than a few days to see if it improves on my mc stage in the pre amp.
    thanks
    I have a pair of Art Audio SUTs (one for each channel) Iím not using that you are welcome to try for the cost of return postage. They are very good. I think they are early versions of their vinyl score SUTs (http://www.artaudio.co.uk/accessories/) - they look very similar other than that mine have flying leads rather than a phono plug to connect to the preamp.
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    thats a very kind offer mate,excuse my ignorance but whats a flying lead?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie123 View Post
    thats a very kind offer mate,excuse my ignorance but whats a flying lead?
    Hi
    Just means that rather than having a phono plug that you connect a separate interconnect to there is an integral lead so you donít need a separate cable - removes 1 connection in the signal path
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    ah got you.
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    I'm happy to loan you my excellent Arkless head amp if interested?

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    Jamie I'd help but we are a long way apart, what I can tell you is that in my case my EAR phono stage unit has MC and MM inputs (there are lots of versions!!), I use a Puresound T10 SUT and it is immediately audibly superior to the EAR, so worth a try of a SUT in your set up I'd say.

    Of course YMMV
    cheers Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by maverick2000 View Post
    my EAR phono stage unit has MC and MM inputs (there are lots of versions!!), I use a Puresound T10 SUT and it is immediately audibly superior to the EAR, so worth a try of a SUT in your set up I'd say
    I'm assuming you mean the EAR 834P. I had the MM/MC version too. The built in SUT's are rubbish. It sounded way better through the MM input using a decent external SUT.

    I moved the EAR on, as I wasn't entirely happy with the sound.
    Mr. Tact!

    Main system: MMs/ADCs/Low output MC's/One rare Japanese SUT/One scarce British phono stage/various tonearms/hefty Japanese DD TT and hefty Japanese BD TT and small British BD TT. 4 CD players/2 jitter buster/2 DACs/Valve buffer. TVC stepped attenuator or valve pre-amp or solid state pre-amp. Current dumping power-amp or either of two Class A SS power-amp or Class A EL34 valve monos or big Japanese (part Class A) integrated. Big dual concentric speakers/Smaller dual concentric speakers/Two way British compacts and full range speakers, amongst others. And too much more to list!

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    My logic in wanting to try this is with every mc I’ve used in my pre amp has sounded good but each time I’ve ended up back to moving magnet cartridges, the zyx I borrowed sounded bland which obviously it isn’t so this has got me thinking there’s a pattern happening. The mm stage is fantastic hence me wanting to try a sut
    The cadenza black sounds wonderful so if my theory is right I’m in for a big improvement, famous last words I know lol
    My System/ Yamaha NS1000M speakers, Townsend Elite rock 2 turntable,,Alphason HR-100S-MCS,Zeta tonearms,Decca C4E Cartridge ,Sony 700ES Amp,Sony X555ES CD Player, Nakamichi ca5 pre amp ,

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie123 View Post
    My logic in wanting to try this is with every mc I’ve used in my pre amp has sounded good but each time I’ve ended up back to moving magnet cartridges, the zyx I borrowed sounded bland which obviously it isn’t so this has got me thinking there’s a pattern happening. The mm stage is fantastic hence me wanting to try a sut
    Sensible move. Should give you some answers.
    Mr. Tact!

    Main system: MMs/ADCs/Low output MC's/One rare Japanese SUT/One scarce British phono stage/various tonearms/hefty Japanese DD TT and hefty Japanese BD TT and small British BD TT. 4 CD players/2 jitter buster/2 DACs/Valve buffer. TVC stepped attenuator or valve pre-amp or solid state pre-amp. Current dumping power-amp or either of two Class A SS power-amp or Class A EL34 valve monos or big Japanese (part Class A) integrated. Big dual concentric speakers/Smaller dual concentric speakers/Two way British compacts and full range speakers, amongst others. And too much more to list!

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