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    Quote Originally Posted by STD305M View Post
    Hi,
    The sound is the same from all sources, My speakers are mounted on Partington Dreadnoughts and the issue has been there since day one.
    Both the turntables are on racks with one on a thick wooden plinth and one on a granite plinth.
    Im begining to wonder if I need to change the amp or speakers as Ive already tried various combinations of cables and different locations for the speakers???


    Any Thoughts would be welcome

    Regards Steve...











    hi
    There's nothing wrong with a Brio and that wouldn't give a rounded off HF.

    Try some other speakers to hear if the Dynaudio can be improved on.

    Cables won't make a huge difference, so try before you buy.

  2. #12
    Join Date: May 2017

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    Hi Dave
    Will go compare other speakers and see if that will satisfy my quest for a better top end
    Thanks for your help!!

    Steve...

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    Quote Originally Posted by STD305M View Post
    Thanks Grant
    I don't have anyone nearby i could borrow and try another pair of speakers from.
    So far i have tried 3 different sets of speaker cables with no success also half a dozen pairs of interconnects which will now have to be sold as no difference

    Regards Steve
    It's good that you have experimented with cables, so you can now understand that what you're looking for is more than what cables can offer.

    Another idea that won't involve any equipment changes: have you tried spreading your speakers a bit further apart and toeing them in a bit more?
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    Quote Originally Posted by STD305M View Post
    Thanks Grant
    I don't have anyone nearby i could borrow and try another pair of speakers from.
    So far i have tried 3 different sets of speaker cables with no success also half a dozen pairs of interconnects which will now have to be sold as no difference

    Regards Steve
    maybe if there is a company nearbye you might get a home trial. Otherwise you could see if any members are close and you could do a bake off
    Regards,
    Grant ....

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    Yomanze
    Thanks, that's something i can try right now ( hang on )!!!
    Yep, that made a little difference also an improvement in sound stage but still a little dull

    Regards Steve...

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    Try some SUPERTWEETERS, these are widely known to give top end sparkle.
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    Do you have the M20's very close to the rear wall?
    Understand this can impact their sound, believe they require a bit of room to hit the right tonal balance so try moving them a little further into the room.
    Do you have them toed into the position where you listen?

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    Have you considered your room that you listen to music in.

    All the cables in the world aren't going to overcome a poorly laid out and unsuitably furnished room.

    This may go against the grain on here, but in my book the room setup is almost as important as the list of gear you have.




    EDIT: Had started my post before yours Eaton Mess and got distracted so hadn't seen your post.

  9. #19
    Join Date: May 2017

    Location: Cuckfield, Sussex, UK

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    I Think Malcolm and Bob may be right
    Just tried my turntable amp and speakers in a different room and it sounds fantastic, so much more top end, really sweet sound.
    Guess i need to try playing around with the furnishing and curtains in my living room.
    Still cant believe the difference in sound ( really mad ) wouldn't have believed it if i hadn't heard the difference myself..

    Thanks guys, you saved me a lot of money and time running round looking for what i already had

    Regards Steve...

    Just goes to show throwing money at the problem wouldn't have solved my problem.... the issue was my room
    Last edited by STD305M; 14-11-2017 at 15:28. Reason: Money doesnt solve all problems

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    Quote Originally Posted by STD305M View Post
    I Think Malcolm and Bob may be right
    Just tried my turntable amp and speakers in a different room and it sounds fantastic, so much more top end, really sweet sound.
    Guess i need to try playing around with the furnishing and curtains in my living room.
    Still cant believe the difference in sound ( really mad ) wouldn't have believed it if i hadn't heard the difference myself..

    Thanks guys, you saved me a lot of money and time running round looking for what i already had

    Regards Steve...

    Just goes to show throwing money at the problem wouldn't have solved my problem.... the issue was my room
    Great, had a feeling it could be resolved without component changes. If you can take a photo of your room (front and back walls) it'd help us in terms of what you can do. Additionally, as I mentioned earlier, some decoupling techniques could help get the room more out of the equation with minimal outlay.
    Mana Acoustics Racks >> Custom Silent Media Server >> Halide Bridge USB (with AQVOX USB power) >> Pedja Rogic's Audial Model S DAC + Pioneer PL-71 turntable / Vista Audio phono-1 mk II / Denon PCL-5 headshell / Reson Reca >> LFD DLS >> LFD PA2M (SE) >> Royd RR3s.

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