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Thread: SACD, how do you REALLY feel about it?

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    I recently bought a used CD player, a Cary 306.200. Which sold for a tidy sum when new, and at 5 years old it plays CDís sublimely. (Is that a word?). I could not be happier with its performance! But it does not play SACDís, and when I was shopping I pondered buying a unit that did play SACD, or perhaps a universal player. I reasoned that I donít presently own any SACDís or DVDAís, so why pay for the hardware to play them? Plus, a search on available titles proved lacking in the music I like.

    So what am I missing? Is it really great? Does it trounce regular CDís? Is it worth the trouble even with limited titles? Or can you take it or leave it? I see a lot of you listing SACDís in the ďWhatís Spinning?Ē, thread. Please share your thoughts!

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    I've had a few SACD-capable players over the years.
    Waste of time, imho.

    I didn't really notice any difference, the individual recording differences between albums were way bigger than any SACD benefits I might (or might not) have heard.

    And, worse, they brought out an OCD element in my personality that isn't usually in evidence - despite not really hearing any worthwhile improvement I found I was restricting my musical diet to SACD recordings! And buying more and more of the damned expensive things. And usually the best albums are not available on SACD anyway.

    What a muffin.

    So, no SACD for me, thanks.
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    DSD whether it comes from an SACD or a file from a PC sounds dull and lifeless to me.
    I too don't get what the fuss is about, give me good ol' PCM anytime.

    Jim.

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    I can play sacd but almost always play the cd layer. Not a big fan
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    SACD was yesterday's con.

    The new con is MQA. I wouldn't buy into that, either.
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    I sold all my SACD's,went through a phase of buying quite a few,but as mentioned before I just didn't get them and preferred the original CD,did make a tidy profit on them though
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    Much depends on mastering quality - and lots of that survives onto the CD layer, but the best ones are IMHO sublime. I'm fairly relaxed, though, about whether I listen to vinyl, SACD, CD (usually ripped) FLAC, ALAC, MP3 and whether I own or stream.

    SACD is still the best way to deliver discrete multichannel music - and this for me is its principal raison d'etre. I despair of Blu-ray discs (and some DVD-A) that require on-screen navigation to access audio only content (Sgt. Pepper's, The Division Bell are some of the main villains here). Classical in surround is my big driver for continuing to buy SACD - a genre that is very well served by SACD. Definitely worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m10 View Post
    Much depends on mastering quality - and lots of that survives onto the CD layer, but the best ones are IMHO sublime. I'm fairly relaxed, though, about whether I listen to vinyl, SACD, CD (usually ripped) FLAC, ALAC, MP3 and whether I own or stream.

    SACD is still the best way to deliver discrete multichannel music - and this for me is its principal raison d'etre. I despair of Blu-ray discs (and some DVD-A) that require on-screen navigation to access audio only content (Sgt. Pepper's, The Division Bell are some of the main villains here). Classical in surround is my big driver for continuing to buy SACD - a genre that is very well served by SACD. Definitely worth it.
    Sorry, this is a bit of a YES / NO / MAYBE answer.

    SACD is, and can be fabulous with the right Transport (not mentioning what brand). After spending what I consider a fortune on a Transport, Iím really disappointed as to the cost of SACD (only) disks ďNot HybridĒ. The Japanese market is very different to ours, as they have embraced the technology and here in the UK finding the artist that you want is a bit of ďHit and Miss affairĒ, and it costs the earth.

    I think my advice is...... if I was as informed then, as I am now.... I probably wouldnít have spent so much money on this technology. I guess the only bonus is.... with a decent Transport, CD also sounds FAB.

    The really irritating thing is ...... waiting 5 weeks or more + import duty to buy SACD from Japan, is a PAIN!!!!

    So...... as always, I head back to good old Vinyl when all else fails.

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    Pick your poison: potential phase or impulse response issues (PCM) or ultrasonic noise issues affecting downstream components (DSD).
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    Although I still own a SACD Player, I have not used it for quite a while now due mainly to what others have said, your limited in material to play.
    I have though experienced the diffrence between both technologies, and it can be quite noticable, unfortunetly though in my honest opinion, SACD came out at least 5 years too late for it to have ever caught on mainstream, hence the reason why I [and I suspect many others here] own very few SACD disks compared to regular CD.
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