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    Join Date: Sep 2014

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    I'm jamie.

    Default Decca curse?

    Is it just me ?
    Iíve noticed some of my records sound better than ever since fitting a decca c4e,
    But others can sounds poor, the good ones tend to be newer but itís starting to get on my tits.
    My System/ Yamaha NS1000M speakers, Townsend Elite rock 2 turntable,,Alphason HR-100S-MCS tonearm,Ortofon Cadenza Black,Decca C4E cartridge ,Sony 700ES Amp,Sony X555ES CD Player, Nakamichi ca5 pre amp ,

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    Jamie,

    Unfortunately the Decca takes no prisoners. Iíve found this to be the case with all Deccaís. I have the Decca Gold and well recorded records sound fabulous and poorly recorded records sound just terrible. However, I guess even the C4e falls into that category.

    The problem is, that it digs out all that is in the groove ďGood and BadĒ.

    There may well be other views on the subject and this is only my slant as to why this issue is just so annoying. However, attention to careful setup may improve the matter. VTA / Azimuth / etc.

    Sorry.......

    Peter


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    I always recommend Decca goes on 2nd arm. When it's right, there's nothing better, but it's fussy with regard to the vinyl.
    I haven't found a consistency either, new/old, cleaning helps but still there's variance.

    Not much help, I suppose it could work with detachable headshell, but then again it likes a unipivot?


    FWIW, my favoured arm is Roksan Tabriz...

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    I’m not alone then lol!
    My System/ Yamaha NS1000M speakers, Townsend Elite rock 2 turntable,,Alphason HR-100S-MCS tonearm,Ortofon Cadenza Black,Decca C4E cartridge ,Sony 700ES Amp,Sony X555ES CD Player, Nakamichi ca5 pre amp ,

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    Nope you're not, I'm getting the same with my Decca Gold. Some LPs sound big, bold, vibrant, and then others sound thin and weedy.

    Sort of like comparing Nigella Lawson with Michaela Strachan

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    Using a Decca on a second arm is a good way to use them. As you have found, they are hell or heaven and also prone to failure.

    Back in the 80s and early 90s we did sell numerous Deccas of all colours and we made sure they went to customers who were enthusiasts and understood the possible pitfalls. Many of them were used on second arms, which is practical.

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    That does beg the question, what should I use as a main cartridge that’s going to get me close?
    My System/ Yamaha NS1000M speakers, Townsend Elite rock 2 turntable,,Alphason HR-100S-MCS tonearm,Ortofon Cadenza Black,Decca C4E cartridge ,Sony 700ES Amp,Sony X555ES CD Player, Nakamichi ca5 pre amp ,

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    ZYX

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    There's a fantastic one in Private exhibitions

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    I m sure there must be an element of this on any cartridge some lp s sound great some lp s less so ?

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