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  1. #91
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    Of course it's not. It's your opinion
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    I have to ask what is wrong with my proclivities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharos View Post
    I have to ask what is wrong with my proclivities.
    Bring up the topic of measurements around here and your name might as well be Weinstein ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharos View Post
    I have to ask what is wrong with my proclivities.
    Ask your doctor, but I'm reliably informed it's curable!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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    Quote Originally Posted by montesquieu View Post
    Bring up the topic of measurements around here and your name might as well be Weinstein ....
    Au contraire, mon ami... When it's relevant to do so (as it was in your case, which I must say neatly illustrated the point you were making), it's welcomed, as it furthers the discussion constructively.

    I was simply making the point that if threads become too technical, outside of the DIY room (not the case in this instance), it turns off the majority of the readership, as it's liable to go over their heads - a fact which Mike himself confirmed. And that makes the exercise largely pointless, unless the technical content is properly explained.

    That's when 'techy chat' is beneficial, as learning is always welcomed. It's simply a matter of getting the balance right

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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    I've kept out of this thread since my early observations about my own experiences with Tannoys and amps.
    But as it seems to have evolved now into a discussion of amplifier types I may as well throw in an observation about my current system and listening preferences.

    I have readily to hand 3 favoured amps -
    a 150wpc Pass Labs X150 power amp (30wpc in Class A, allegedly)
    a 25wpc Wadia 151 digital amp (no, really, not class D, it's a powerDAC)
    a 12(?) wpc el84 valve integrated.

    I love them all and have no current plans to sell any of them.
    It would be difficult (but not impossible) to find more extreme variety of technical approach.
    To me they all make wonderful music, and no I don't give a damn how they measure. And yes, all 3 sound different from each other.

    fwiw my current fave is the el84 amp, but that may be because it was the last to arrive.
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    Regarding Objectivism and Subjectivism, my stance is as follows. (But critique any error in approach please).

    The processes in objectivism can be laughable when extolled to support the choice of equipment which plainly sounds terrible, and we also use our perceptions, as we do in listening, to validate much 'objectivist' measurement.

    My approach is to list equipments which measure well, and then choose which sounds the best, and this is the final arbiter.

    I would be reticent to validate equipment which gives an immediate likability, but does not measure well, the ear/brain can be fooled by an 'odd' sound, one which has an obvious deviation when measured, from a correct presentation. eg., a stilted frequency range, or a colored bass which initially excites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharos View Post
    Regarding Objectivism and Subjectivism, my stance is as follows. (But critique any error in approach please).

    The processes in objectivism can be laughable when extolled to support the choice of equipment which plainly sounds terrible, and we also use our perceptions, as we do in listening, to validate much 'objectivist' measurement.

    My approach is to list equipments which measure well, and then choose which sounds the best, and this is the final arbiter.

    I would be reticent to validate equipment which gives an immediate likability, but does not measure well, the ear/brain can be fooled by an 'odd' sound, one which has an obvious deviation when measured, from a correct presentation. eg., a stilted frequency range, or a colored bass which initially excites.
    Spot on I would say.

    @Jerry I must admit I have a hankering to hear one of the proper Pass amps with Tannoys. I've heard a couple of the First Watt ones, and whatever the push-pull one I heard was called, it was quite close to a good valve amp. I imagine the fully commercial ones are even better. Also should make your MBLs sing I would expect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharos View Post
    Regarding Objectivism and Subjectivism, my stance is as follows. (But critique any error in approach please).

    The processes in objectivism can be laughable when extolled to support the choice of equipment which plainly sounds terrible, and we also use our perceptions, as we do in listening, to validate much 'objectivist' measurement.

    My approach is to list equipments which measure well, and then choose which sounds the best, and this is the final arbiter.

    I would be reticent to validate equipment which gives an immediate likability, but does not measure well, the ear/brain can be fooled by an 'odd' sound, one which has an obvious deviation when measured, from a correct presentation. eg., a stilted frequency range, or a colored bass which initially excites.
    A topic that could probably do with a thread of its own.
    Current Lash Up:

    TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > JM Labs Focal Electra 926.

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    As long as I enjoy the final sound, I care little as to how it comes about tbh. Once upon a time i might have

    ..life is too short.
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    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
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    FIIO K7 BT, M11 PLUS, BTR7, KA5 - OPPO BDP-103D - PANASONIC UB450 - PANASONIC 4K ULTRA HD TV - PIXEL 6 - AVANTREE LR BLUETOOTH - 2* X600 SOUNDCORE - HEADPHONES INCLUDE, FIIO, NURAPHONES', FOCAL, OPPO, BOSE, CAMBRIDGE, BOWER & WILKINS, DEVIALET, MARSHALL, SONY, MITCHELL & JOHNSTON - 2*ZBOOK'S- MERCURY BD ROM, ROON, QOBUZ, TIDAL, PLEX, CYBERLINK, JRIVER - MULTI HDD'S -

    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


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