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    Hi,

    I buy lossless CDs online then burn them myself if I can, unless they are rare or foreign or something, in which case I have to a buy a real CD.

    I have a Cambridge Audio CXC and one of the big things about this unit is that it JUST does CDs and runs them at super-correct speed etc, bla, bla.

    No complaits about the sound the cxc produces. But... I am burning my CDs with a standard PC burner. So, in theory, because my burner is crap I should be getting problems right? The CXC never refuses to play one. Never had a duff one - except once when there were little pops on the songs, which sounded to me like something was wrong digitally - out of sync or whatever, I cannot profess to be an expert in that area. A reburn was the solution.

    My DAC is Music Fidelity V90.

    So, factory CD or my cheapo burned one - I really cannot hear the difference. Even compared burned copies to "real" ones. Same to my ears.

    I don't understand.

    Should I go back to a transistor radio because my listening abilities are not worthy of hifi?

    Or is there another explanation?

    Thanks in advance

    Chris

    Added later: And...I am using free software - CD Burner XP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    Hi,

    I buy lossless CDs online then burn them myself if I can, unless they are rare or foreign or something, in which case I have to a buy a real CD.

    I have a Cambridge Audio CXC and one of the big things about this unit is that it JUST does CDs and runs them at super-correct speed etc, bla, bla.

    No complaits about the sound the cxc produces. But... I am burning my CDs with a standard PC burner. So, in theory, because my burner is crap I should be getting problems right? The CXC never refuses to play one. Never had a duff one - except once when there were little pops on the songs, which sounded to me like something was wrong digitally - out of sync or whatever, I cannot profess to be an expert in that area. A reburn was the solution.

    My DAC is Music Fidelity V90.

    So, factory CD or my cheapo burned one - I really cannot hear the difference. Even compared burned copies to "real" ones. Same to my ears.

    I don't understand.

    Should I go back to a transistor radio because my listening abilities are not worthy of hifi?

    Or is there another explanation?

    Thanks in advance

    Chris

    Added later: And...I am using free software - CD Burner XP.
    Can I ask, why buy knock off CDs and re copy them?
    novafidelity x40 music server/pre/dac, Arcam A39, roksan k3 power amp,Monitor Audio Monitor 50, Dali spektor 1, van damme interconnects and speaker cable, roskan k3 CD player

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    I don't. I use 7digital mainly. You buy, download a zip, expand to flac and then burn. I can buy individual songs if I want too. So, just the tracks I like. I can preview too.

    So, for clarity, I buy the files online, not the CDs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    I don't. I use 7digital mainly. You buy, download a zip, expand to flac and then burn. I can buy individual songs if I want too. So, just the tracks I like. I can preview too.
    Ah I getcha, you buy downloads it read as though you bought dodgy CDs ,Personally I like to buy proper CDs,many pre-owned ones are dead cheap, Ive heard good things about the Cambridge audio transport
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    Default Burning CD. Logic says...

    No reason for it not to sound identical as it is and played through same gear. Rip software is pretty much the same
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    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

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    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

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    Yes, downloads. Haha.

    I think I worded things badly.

    Grant, If I buy a download, for argument's same Michael Jackson's Greatest hits, burn it with my crappy player. Then a friend comes round with a factory-burned one he bought from a shop, in the box, with the sleeves etc - we can't tell the difference. Same playback gear, different burn - I use a £15 bit of rubbish and the CD factory has some better I presume

    Sorry if my brain is not good today. My pills.

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    You sound disappointed that they both sound the same and................you like the sound.

    Sounds like a win win to me, be happy my friend, it's good that they're identical.



    Jim.

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    Default Burning CD. Logic says...

    Your disc won't last as long as its burned but you can always do it again. Of course you can do same buying cd and then flac-ing it and burning too should all sound the same
    Regards,
    Grant .... ؠ ......Don't be such a big girl's blouse

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
    FIIO K7 BT, M11 PLUS, BTR7, KA5 - OPPO BDP-103D - PANASONIC UB450 - PANASONIC 4K ULTRA HD TV - PIXEL 6 - AVANTREE LR BLUETOOTH - 2* X600 SOUNDCORE - HEADPHONES INCLUDE, FIIO, NURAPHONES', FOCAL, OPPO, BOSE, CAMBRIDGE, BOWER & WILKINS, DEVIALET, MARSHALL, SONY, MITCHELL & JOHNSTON - 2*ZBOOK'S- MERCURY BD ROM, ROON, QOBUZ, TIDAL, PLEX, CYBERLINK, JRIVER - MULTI HDD'S -

    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


    ***SMILE, BE HAPPY***

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    Well, I am pleased, of course! lol.

    Just don't get why. I would expect true audiophiles to be banging on about their expensive CD burners with speed regulators etc to get the best copy. But you never hear that.

    Does no one else download files like this? I'm getting the feeling I am in a minority!

    You can buy something in 5 minutes and 10 minutes later it is playing in your house. No waiting around - I love buying stuff like this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    Does no one else download files like this? I'm getting the feeling I am in a minority!
    First time I've ever heard of it!

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    You can buy something in 5 minutes and 10 minutes later it is playing in your house. No waiting around - I love buying stuff like this
    Many of us miss out the burning to CD bit and get the files playing directly onto a stream rendering device.
    Chris



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