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    I agree too. It's not wrong to make an advance, what is wrong is to ignore the rejection of that advance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReggieB View Post
    I agree too. It's not wrong to make an advance, what is wrong is to ignore the rejection of that advance.
    Agreed. Where's it all going? Now (some say) you have to ask permission to kiss someone apparently otherwise it's assault.
    No, you get to a point where you think it's allowable, desired even, and try it. Applies to men and women.
    Soon we'll have to be asking permission to ask permission! Pre-kiss agreements perhaps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Len Co View Post
    Agreed. Where's it all going? Now (some say) you have to ask permission to kiss someone apparently otherwise it's assault.
    No, you get to a point where you think it's allowable, desired even, and try it. Applies to men and women.
    Soon we'll have to be asking permission to ask permission! Pre-kiss agreements perhaps.
    As it says in one of the links I posted, army officers in the UK are being recommended to get FILMED consent before jumping into bed. Could be the way the world is headed.

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    if I'd took a woman out on a date and touched her knee that is fine, you are already on a date, so that hurdle has been cleared. In the example cited in the o/p the bloke is being interviewed in a professional capacity, he is not on a date with the woman, in that situation knee touching without consent is therefore overstepping the boundaries.

    Not in any serious way, granted, and any women who went to the authorities about something so trivial needs marking down as a potential bunny boiler. But still crossing a boundary that anyone without mental health issues should be aware of.

    That aside it is a bit of an odd come-on anyway. Is that how they teach them to pull birds at Eton? 'Don't bother chatting them up or asking them out first or anything, just start touching and bob's yer uncle.'
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    its all gone to the dogs. Do good liberals always go too far with things as do people with equality issues and human rights. Certainly feel for young folk just coming into all this minefield of issues. Like smacking your kids, you cant. you cant even grab them when they are trying to just do what they want, so you end up with a parent either breaking the law or letting the kid go to hell. I never hit my kids but it was on the menu, and tbh thats all it needs to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    if I'd took a woman out on a date and touched her knee that is fine, you are already on a date, so that hurdle has been cleared. In the example cited in the o/p the bloke is being interviewed in a professional capacity, he is not on a date with the woman, in that situation knee touching without consent is therefore overstepping the boundaries.

    Not in any serious way, granted, and any women who went to the authorities about something so trivial needs marking down as a potential bunny boiler. But still crossing a boundary that anyone without mental health issues should be aware of.

    That aside it is a bit of an odd come-on anyway. Is that how they teach them to pull birds at Eton? 'Don't bother chatting them up or asking them out first or anything, just start touching and bob's yer uncle.'
    I agree it's a weird way of signalling anything.

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    she might have been giving him the come on, although not meaning to. x-ed signals happen all the time ffs
    Regards,
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    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


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    You can still physically chastise your children, in the UK at least, smack on the legs or suchlike is okay. You can't take your belt off to them no more though.

    Surprising how many people I know who think any level of corporal punishment is 'barbaric'. God only knows where they get that from. Of course their children are nasty little spoiled brats who are going to get eaten alive in the real world, but what great parents they are.
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  9. #29
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    not in Scotland now.
    Regards,
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    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
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    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


    ***SMILE, BE HAPPY***

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    You can still physically chastise your children, in the UK at least, smack on the legs or suchlike is okay. You can't take your belt off to them no more though.

    Surprising how many people I know who think any level of corporal punishment is 'barbaric'. God only knows where they get that from. Of course their children are nasty little spoiled brats who are going to get eaten alive in the real world, but what great parents they are.
    Hell is Other People's Children.

    It's amazing how many parents let their kids make complete nuisances of themselves in restaurants - I thought that's what McDonalds was for. Discipline is no longer a thing it seems.

    Grant is correct any kind of corporal punishment has been banned north of the Border by the SNP ... they have the initials the wrong way round it stands for Nanny State Party (or perhaps National Socialist Party - that's true to their 1930s roots at least).

    It seems that the more useless they are at running health, education, police etc, the more they double down on ordering citizens about ... minimum alcohol pricing, smoking (banned just about anywhere now never mind in pubs), reducing the drink drive limit (under a great pretense that drink drive accidents are generally down someone who has one pint) etc etc etc.

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