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  1. #21
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    Part of my journey is more or less over. I doubt I'll ever buy another pair of speakers.......................not ready made ones at least, unless it's something as a restoration project. In future I intend to buld my own speakers should I need any.
    It is impossible for anything digital to sound analogue, because it isn't analogue!

  2. #22
    Join Date: Apr 2016

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    I was certain my front horn set up with valves was it and then a failure at Scalford made me rethink my tri-amped set up. I sold most of it off, tried various box speakers and settled on the zu's with PX25 mono blocks. I had dismissed box speakers but these sound as good, maybe my memory of the horns is not so clear. Again I considered valves to be superior to ss as my experiences of ss guitar amps back in the seventies was that they were total garbage compared to valves. Then in a mad moment I bought a Sony receiver and loved it. I sold the PX25's without comparing them to the receiver and have remained contented, listening to music and not the kit. My only disappointment has been my headphone playback and so I've bought and await delivery of a little dot 1 headphone amp.
    My only other itch is to build the lowther alerion speakers just to know if they are what I expect. The smaller lowther dx drivers are not shouty like the 8" drivers but have that transparency that not many drivers have. I don't believe there are many if at all any alerions in the uk as they were made by lowther America.
    Bakoon 13r Denon DP80 Stax UA-70 Shure Ultra 500 in a Martin Bastin body with jico stylus, project ds2 digital Rullit aero 8 field coils in tqwt speakers

    Office system, DIY CSS fullrange speakers with aurum cantus G2 ribbons yulong dac Sony STR6055 receiver Jvc QL-A51 direct drive turntable, Leema sub. JVC Z4S cart is in the house

    Garage system another Sony receiver, cassette deck


    System components are subject to change without warning and at the discretion of the owner.

  3. #23
    Join Date: Jan 2008

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    I also think the journey is part of our interest in hifi and once hooked it's like a drug, you want more and more. Personally as much as I have a great interest in the subject I don't feel I need to change anything significant in my system as I feel through 35 years of messing I have arrived at a place I feel very comfortable with.
    Absolutely, Jim. It basically boils down to your ability to control the 'What if?' demon, and also I believe, if you suffer from having an addictive personality, which lends you to obsessing over and changing things, to the point of it becoming an addiction, controlling that, too.

    Fancy taking the 'Top 10' test, to see if you're a 'Hi-fi Victim'? Ok, here it is... See how many of these you answer 'Yes' to:

    1) Do you find yourself regularly (or constantly) browsing ebay and/or the classifieds sections of forums, 'just in case something interesting pops up'?
    2) Do you have a Gallery thread here, many pages long, where it's mostly you posting, telling folks about something you've just bought/done to your system?
    3) Are your posts here and/or elsewhere, about music-related subjects, dwarfed in number by your hi-fi related ones?
    4) Have you started more threads on forums, outlining some problem or other with your system, as opposed to ones outlining how it's delighting you?
    5) Overall so far, have you spent *significantly* more on hi-fi equipment and ancillaries than on music, whether in a downloaded, streamed or physical format?
    6) Is your ratio of 'tinkering to listening' *significantly* biased towards tinkering?
    7) Do you own more equipment that's currently sitting redundant, as opposed to being used regularly for its designed purpose?
    8) Does your listening space resemble a hi-fi shop/museum/'workshop' more than simply a comfortable space to relax and enjoy music?
    9) Do you buy hi-fi equipment under the premise of it being 'easy to move on', if necessary, as opposed enjoying it for as long as possible, regardless?
    10) Does the cost of the hi-fi equipment/ancillaries you currently own *considerably* outweigh the cost [what you've paid, not current value] of your physical music collection?

    Everyone here should have a go at this, and see how many 'yeses' they have!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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  4. #24
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    The difference is that Geoff describes his system in his signature as if he's after a Pulitzer, and mine is more telephone directory plus the fact that I don't even mention that my system has a turntable.

    Also that my two systems use the same brand of source and speakers, suggests I've finally made up my mind.
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  5. #25
    Join Date: Feb 2013

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    not really yes and no answers.
    Regards,
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  6. #26
    Join Date: Apr 2012

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    I'm Geoff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    not really yes and no answers.
    Maybe.
    It is impossible for anything digital to sound analogue, because it isn't analogue!

  7. #27
    Join Date: Jan 2008

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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    not really yes and no answers.
    The key ones are!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


    Protect your HUMAN RIGHTS and REFUSE ANY *MANDATORY* VACCINE FOR COVID-19!

    Also **SAY NO** to unjust 'vaccine passports' or certificates, which are totally incompatible with a FREE society!!!


  8. #28
    Join Date: Apr 2012

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    I reckon my response to your questions is about 50/50 Marco. The equipment and the tinkering with it or the building of something are the hobby part for me. The music playing part of things being the enjoyable end product.
    It is impossible for anything digital to sound analogue, because it isn't analogue!

  9. #29
    Join Date: Jan 2008

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    That's cool, Geoff, and I get that. However, I note that no-one has yet gone through the questions one by one, and responded (as closely as possible) in a 'Yes' way or otherwise...

    That's what I'm looking for, and essentially finding out how closely the content of the questions mirror your 'hi-fi habits'. Anyone fancy trying it?

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


    Protect your HUMAN RIGHTS and REFUSE ANY *MANDATORY* VACCINE FOR COVID-19!

    Also **SAY NO** to unjust 'vaccine passports' or certificates, which are totally incompatible with a FREE society!!!


  10. #30
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    1) Do you find yourself regularly (or constantly) browsing ebay and/or the classifieds section of forums 'just in case something interesting pops up'? NO
    2) Do you have a Gallery thread here with over 50 pages of input, where it's mostly you who's been doing the posting? NO
    3) How often do you post here about music-related subjects, as opposed to hi-fi ones? 20%?
    4) How many threads have you started here where the subject involves discussing some problem with your system, as opposed to how it's delighting you?
    Not many
    5) When listening to music, do you listen to albums all the way through, or simply select favourite tracks and/or ones that sound best, whilst ignoring the rest? always listen to the whole album
    6) Is your ratio of 'tinkering to listening' heavily biased towards tinkering?
    No
    7) Do you own more equipment that's sitting redundant, as opposed to being used regularly for its designed purpose? yes
    8) Does your listening space resemble a hi-fi shop/museum/'workshop' more than simply a comfortable space to relax and enjoy music? No
    9) Do you buy hi-fi equipment mainly under the premise of it being 'easy to move on', should it not suit, as opposed to adopting a more considered and thorough approach? No
    10) Does the cost of the hi-fi equipment/ancillaries you currently own VASTLY outweigh the cost [what you've paid, not current value] of your physical music collection? No
    Current Lash Up:

    TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > JM Labs Focal Electra 926.

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