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  1. #171
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    I sympathise with the OP having to return two turntables & hope he will be third time lucky, but if you look at Technics own video about the renaissance of this iconic table and the fact that they had to drag out of retirement the older workers they could find & the latter in their turn had to train new assemblers & technical staff, who were unacquainted with this technology, I am not surprised some of the early tables show problems.

    After all, even if based on an existing design this is effectively a new product.

    Personally I always try and wait a year or two before purchasing in order to let the early glitches get sorted.
    Julian.

  2. #172
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    Great to see a Jap amp, at last, fitted with quality RCAs, and especially, binding posts! Plus a proper mains inlet, to facilitate the use of a decent mains lead, instead of the shitty-thin captive 'liquorice stick', posing as a mains lead, normally supplied!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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  3. #173
    Join Date: Aug 2014

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Great to see a Jap amp, at last, fitted with quality RCAs, and especially, binding posts! Plus a proper mains inlet, to facilitate the use of a decent mains lead, instead of the shitty-thin captive 'liquorice stick', posing as a mains lead, normally supplied!

    Marco.
    Agreed!

    If you're ever in my neck of the woods give me a shout.


    My System:

    Turntable - Linn Sondek LP12, Kore, Lingo 4, Roksan NIMA, Lyra Delos Cartridge, Roksan HDC-03 arm lead, Trampolin 2 base, Tiger Paw Vulcan, Denon DCD-A110 Cd player, Tag Mclaren DAC20 Digital to Analogue Converter, SPM Interconnects, Nordost Red Dawn Leif Speaker cable, Spendor S3/5R2 Target R1 speaker Stands, Atacama ECO 60/40 hifi racks, Sennheiser HD565 Ovation headphones

  4. #174
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    No worries, will do - and likewise!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


    Protect your HUMAN RIGHTS and REFUSE ANY *MANDATORY* VACCINE FOR COVID-19!

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  5. #175
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tea24 View Post
    I sympathise with the OP having to return two turntables & hope he will be third time lucky, but if you look at Technics own video about the renaissance of this iconic table and the fact that they had to drag out of retirement the older workers they could find & the latter in their turn had to train new assemblers & technical staff, who were unacquainted with this technology, I am not surprised some of the early tables show problems.

    After all, even if based on an existing design this is effectively a new product.

    Personally I always try and wait a year or two before purchasing in order to let the early glitches get sorted.
    I know what you mean. Many people look at the 1200G and think it's just the 1210 relaunched, they just don't get that it's a totally new product but a better product. My new deck will be here in about 3 weeks!


    My System:

    Turntable - Linn Sondek LP12, Kore, Lingo 4, Roksan NIMA, Lyra Delos Cartridge, Roksan HDC-03 arm lead, Trampolin 2 base, Tiger Paw Vulcan, Denon DCD-A110 Cd player, Tag Mclaren DAC20 Digital to Analogue Converter, SPM Interconnects, Nordost Red Dawn Leif Speaker cable, Spendor S3/5R2 Target R1 speaker Stands, Atacama ECO 60/40 hifi racks, Sennheiser HD565 Ovation headphones

  6. #176
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    I look forward to your report once you have it up & running & I hope no problems this time.
    Julian.

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    The thing I like best about that Yammy amp is the fact it has tone controls.

    And no, I'm not joking

  8. #178
    Join Date: Aug 2014

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    Quote Originally Posted by keiron99 View Post
    The thing I like best about that Yammy amp is the fact it has tone controls.

    And no, I'm not joking
    Definitly! And when they are in the centre they are defeated, a relay clicks in when you adjust them, nice touch.

    Tone controls were frowned upon by the British Hifi crowd but they're okay now as the new PMC Cor amp has them!


    My System:

    Turntable - Linn Sondek LP12, Kore, Lingo 4, Roksan NIMA, Lyra Delos Cartridge, Roksan HDC-03 arm lead, Trampolin 2 base, Tiger Paw Vulcan, Denon DCD-A110 Cd player, Tag Mclaren DAC20 Digital to Analogue Converter, SPM Interconnects, Nordost Red Dawn Leif Speaker cable, Spendor S3/5R2 Target R1 speaker Stands, Atacama ECO 60/40 hifi racks, Sennheiser HD565 Ovation headphones

  9. #179
    Join Date: Aug 2014

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    Looks like my 1200G will be here soon!


    My System:

    Turntable - Linn Sondek LP12, Kore, Lingo 4, Roksan NIMA, Lyra Delos Cartridge, Roksan HDC-03 arm lead, Trampolin 2 base, Tiger Paw Vulcan, Denon DCD-A110 Cd player, Tag Mclaren DAC20 Digital to Analogue Converter, SPM Interconnects, Nordost Red Dawn Leif Speaker cable, Spendor S3/5R2 Target R1 speaker Stands, Atacama ECO 60/40 hifi racks, Sennheiser HD565 Ovation headphones

  10. #180
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    Hopefully the 3rd one will be dead silent.

    Now - I'm scratching my head at some comments you made earlier. You feel the G bests the M5G. I'd like to now how? From my understanding your M5G was heavily modded. Are you saying the G sounds better? Didn't you replace the arm? If that is the case then that is not at all part of the M5G. That only leads to speed stability - are you saying that you can actually hear more stable speed?

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with preferring the G over the M5G aesthetically - but I refuse to believe soundwise and speedwise the G beats it (and noticeably.)

    I think the G is nice - but I'm quite happy with the M5G and believe it is the most beautiful of the sl1200 line. I think the G is beautiful as well and has some really cool new features - but these features are primarily to appease the audiophile reviewer (Fremer) and really do nothing to make the great deck better.

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