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    I recently bought an album described as mint that sounded like a bonfire. The seller said I was lying and I should have have returned it but couldn't be arsed going all the way to the post office and going through the drama of shipping over seas.

    I have the Fleetwood Mac half speed Rumours and it's superb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by farflungstar View Post
    I have the Fleetwood Mac half speed Rumours and it's superb.
    +1 Adrian
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    Quote Originally Posted by farflungstar View Post
    I recently bought an album described as mint that sounded like a bonfire. The seller said I was lying and I should have have returned it but couldn't be arsed going all the way to the post office and going through the drama of shipping over seas.

    I have the Fleetwood Mac half speed Rumours and it's superb.
    A very similar experience - it wasn't by any chance a Discogs seller in Brazil, was it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WESTLOWER View Post
    Really !!?! Not so I have an incredibly good original and have played it to many people with the half speed reissue A/B
    Can't believe you came to that conclusion! Each to their own.
    I'm fortunate / cursed enough to have been a record dealer for 20+ years. Over time we've been lucky enough to buy in some very nice collections and met some interesting people. One of these was a distributor for Island. My copy came from him, it's not a rare LP and we've had dozens of A1//B1 copies. The difference being this copy was unplayed. If you're ever down in Devon Pop over for a cup of tea and a listen. The 1st pressing has more air (pardon the pun), hence the comment the Abbey rd sounds compressed in comparison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A.Grail View Post
    I'm fortunate / cursed enough to have been a record dealer for 20+ years. Over time we've been lucky enough to buy in some very nice collections and met some interesting people. One of these was a distributor for Island. My copy came from him, it's not a rare LP and we've had dozens of A1//B1 copies. The difference being this copy was unplayed. If you're ever down in Devon Pop over for a cup of tea and a listen. The 1st pressing has more air (pardon the pun), hence the comment the Abbey rd sounds compressed in comparison.
    Ok i value your opinion, I've also had enough copies of this title, a couple near mint over the 35 years of collecting.
    Not sure an unplayed copy will give anymore air to the cut, but as I said each to each their own. I certainly don't need to come to Devon to do a comparison, but thanks for the offer and for the hot beverage. I'm pretty sure the chaps who cut these reissues know what they are doing too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WESTLOWER View Post
    Ok i value your opinion, I've also had enough copies of this title, a couple near mint over the 35 years of collecting.
    Not sure an unplayed copy will give anymore air to the cut, but as I said each to each their own. I certainly don't need to come to Devon to do a comparison, but thanks for the offer and for the hot beverage. I'm pretty sure the chaps who cut these reissues know what they are doing too.
    I worked for transformation mastering and editing in the early 90's. Many of the elements of Analogue reproduction are dying arts. I appreciate the abbey Rd pressings are digitized. Personally I'm tend to prefer true analogue processing. I am only aware of one company in the UK who work to the old standards with the original all tube equipment and their output is exceptional
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    Well I picked up my copy of supertramp crime of the century from mobile fidelity music lab, half speed mastering. Technically speaking....stonkingly good. Now I'm not going to wax lyrical on a first listen but if you're one of the many who claim to like the music before the kit, then don't buy it, 'cause it's incredible and I found myself hearing clean precise controlled bass amongst everything else that's going on. It's that good it makes everything sound broken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulf-2007 View Post
    Well I picked up my copy of supertramp crime of the century from mobile fidelity music lab, half speed mastering. Technically speaking....stonkingly good. Now I'm not going to wax lyrical on a first listen but if you're one of the many who claim to like the music before the kit, then don't buy it, 'cause it's incredible and I found myself hearing clean precise controlled bass amongst everything else that's going on. It's that good it makes everything sound broken.
    Funnily enough this thread provoked me to pick up the Abbey Road Free - Fire & Water which I just stuck on this evening. As with the Abbey Road Solid Air it's stunning.

    I also have an early pressing of Solid Air though it's seriously well played ... and not in any way superior to the Abbey Road version, or 'less compressed' (the turnover/roll-off curve equalisation that has allowed bass wavelengths to fit on a disc since then 1920s is a form of compression).

    I refuse to be sniffy about digital mastering, a record is either well-mastered, or it isn't.
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    I have Fire and water

    Bottom end is pretty good but to me the guitars sounds compressed and distorted space and details gone as well


    I am comparing it whit the old ILPS9120
    The run off in the old one is about a third in size of the Abbey rip off

    I am somewhat not convinced of the quality of this issue the 3.50 worn second hand original sound batterer
    Now I have to find a mint old copy of the old one


    IMO Abbey road half speed mastering are not worth the money


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    The supertramp is so good I bought two more today, fleetwood Mac rumours, supposedly belonged to a Canadian reviewer and not played much, didn't hold out much hope to find one but persevererence pays off. Puccini madam butterfly, never been an opera fan but listening to this on Spotify I find it's very good and something I can enjoy. Now waiting for them to arrive.
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