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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    What I don't understand, in reference to spellcheckers (and predictive text), is no matter how good or bad they are, presumably YOU still get the chance to 'check' what's there, and make sure all is ok, before hitting the 'Submit Reply' button?

    As they say, a poor workman always blames his tools!

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    Quote Originally Posted by User211 View Post
    True but they are a bit of a can't live with / can't live without feature in these days of soft mobile keyboards. Plain annoying either way.
    Sheer laziness - end of!

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    It became so obvious to me today at the bank that, whilst behind a disabled man being helped and it taking much time, and another man behind was grumbling, potentially we all potentially face that predicament, and that we also all have varied degrees of developmental support resulting in what we become.

    The only time to chastise if at all, is when someone does not take an opportunity to do his best, or even worse cannot bother to try. I haven't got a degree and have spent years internally beating myself up about it, but my life was influenced by very negative feedback about my ability, and until 31 I thought I may really be thick because I had consistently been told so.

    I think we must remember to be empathetic to others predicaments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharos View Post
    It became so obvious to me today at the bank that, whilst behind a disabled man being helped and it taking much time, and another man behind was grumbling, potentially we all potentially face that predicament, and that we also all have varied degrees of developmental support resulting in what we become.

    The only time to chastise if at all, is when someone does not take an opportunity to do his best, or even worse cannot bother to try. I haven't got a degree and have spent years internally beating myself up about it, but my life was influenced by very negative feedback about my ability, and until 31 I thought I may really be thick because I had consistently been told so.

    I think we must remember to be empathetic to others predicaments.
    Indeed. to try your best is all anyone can do. failure should then not be an issue. No doubt many dont try very hard, but many, maybe most with disabilities do try hard, and often succeed to a level. It is all about levels though,as all have different ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    depends how well you spell, and how well you read
    Yup, but doesn't really apply with predictive text. If your phone (or whatever) has substituted an incorrect word and/or some gobbledygook, instead of what you'd intended to put, then it's up to you to CHECK it before it gets sent!

    As I've said many times before, all this sort of bollocks does is encourage lazy thinking, and our need to use our brains less and less - with unfortunate circumstances... I'm just dead against all the 'dumbing down' that exists today, in terms of how we communicate.

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    Chill out boys. i spend half the day spell checking and copywriting. I love posting on forums and I never check my typing, time off innit. It doesn't matter.

    A question regarding the original post. I can see how EQ can be applied to an amp to get a similar frequency response to another amp, but what about output impedance and damping factor. You'd have to rematch those every time you tried it with different speakers, surely? (Assuming a none 0 sub miliohm output impedance) Seems like a big faff, unless you have fallen in love with a pissed FR.
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    I turned off the predictive text on my iPad but it still types wtf it wants, I do try to make sure it's correct but often miss errors. I am a bit ocd on grammar and spelling. God knows what the future holds for the English language as even high flying ad firms are shit when it comes to grammar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sumday View Post
    Talk of bob Carter.emulating other amps with one of his own throws up some interesting questions.
    Chiefly, if all amps can be made to sound the same...why bother developing your own circuit at all?
    Why not copy a reasonable design cheaply then increase costs to fleece customers?



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    isnt that what happens already?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    I suppose it is worth mentioning that good amplifiers, used within their limits, should all sound pretty similar anyway. The only reason there are differences are that a lot of amps are not very good, or they are intentionally coloured, or they are run into clipping.
    Back on topic .. lot of sense in this but the amp is only half the equation. It's all about the amp and speaker combination - the same amp will sound utterly different to into cuddly old 16 ohm vintage speakers than it will into a set of 4 ohm Isobariks, 100 db sensitive full range horns or large electrostatics; conversely any given amp will make each of these speakers sound somewhere on the spectrum between superb and broken, depending on how much of a match it is for what those individual speakers require. I can hardly think of an amp that would give its best in all circumstances.

    Hence all generalisations about amps = (ultimately) bollocks ... if I may make a bit of a generalisation ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by montesquieu View Post
    Back on topic .. lot of sense in this but the amp is only half the equation. It's all about the amp and speaker combination - the same amp will sound utterly different to into cuddly old 16 ohm vintage speakers than it will into a set of 4 ohm Isobariks, 100 db sensitive full range horns or large electrostatics; conversely any given amp will make each of these speakers sound somewhere on the spectrum between superb and broken, depending on how much of a match it is for what those individual speakers require. I can hardly think of an amp that would give its best in all circumstances.

    Hence all generalisations about amps = (ultimately) bollocks ... if I may make a bit of a generalisation ...
    I was taking it as read that you match the amp to the speakers.
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