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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    Bob Carver made the claim that he could 'tune' or 'voice' his amplifier so that it would be indistinguishable from any chosen amplifier in a blind listening test.

    I believe this challenge was tested by Stereophile magazine who chose the Mark Levinson ML-2 amplifier for Bob Carver to mimic. I don't know if the result was successful.
    Nah, sterophile selected the Conrad-Johnson Premier Four, but did not reveal it for 24 years, because they didn't want to put themselves in a position of picking on any particular brand.



    I think he only had 48 hours to do it. The challenge was successful
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    Default thought- Can equalisation be used to make cheap gear sound more "fancy"

    If you gave your EQ a midbass hump around a certain area, or slightly rolled off the treble then yes I do think EQ can make an amp sound like another amp. EQ may also be used to roll off the extreme bass to better suit a room / speaker interface.
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    I suppose it is worth mentioning that good amplifiers, used within their limits, should all sound pretty similar anyway. The only reason there are differences are that a lot of amps are not very good, or they are intentionally coloured, or they are run into clipping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1200reasons View Post
    Nah, sterophile selected the Conrad-Johnson Premier Four, but did not reveal it for 24 years, because they didn't want to put themselves in a position of picking on any particular brand.



    I think he only had 48 hours to do it. The challenge was successful
    My mistake - it was the Audio Critic magazine who put up ML-2s for the Carver Challenge. https://www.stereophile.com/content/...enge-responses
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    That would be a very poorly designed Valve amp, well designed valve amps often have a higher frequency response than even the best solid state designs.
    Its true that the output transformer can be the weakest link in the chain though, especialy at low frequencies. All conventional loudspeaker drive units have moving goal posts, where Frequency versus impedance is concerned. Therefore; both topologies of amp will put diffrent amounts of power into the changing speaker impedances, over the audio frequency range.
    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    Amps can be voiced but that cannot be replicated with EQ - Clark was using EQ to compensate
    for valve amps rolling off early (i.e before 20khz),
    in other words, correcting frequency response differences.

    I think the answer to the o/p is 'No'.
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    Oh dear Mr stratmangler.....slight grammar errors due to spellchecker and you blow a fucking gasket.

    Shame on you.

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    Somehow my morning coffee has completely failed to soak in- but I think Carver succeeded in emulating the Mark Levinson too. However, he did at one stage make the mistake of making his amp sound BETTER than the ML, so he had to turn down the performance of his amp.

    If he's pulled it off twice (in 48 hours each), one must wonder what's achievable with more time but less genius
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    Quote Originally Posted by sumday View Post
    Oh dear Mr stratmangler.....slight grammar errors due to spellchecker and you blow a fucking gasket.

    Shame on you.
    No I don't.
    If your spell checker does that for you then you need to get a better one.
    I asked for clarification, nothing more, and you blow a gasket.
    Shame on you!

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    What I don't understand, in reference to spellcheckers (and predictive text), is no matter how good or bad they are, presumably YOU still get the chance to 'check' what's there, and make sure all is ok, before hitting the 'Submit Reply' button?

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    True but they are a bit of a can't live with / can't live without feature in these days of soft mobile keyboards. Plain annoying either way.

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