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    Default New to streaming, please help.

    Currently play just vinyl and CD. Want to try streaming, that is downloading music from the internet! I have a laptop, but no idea how to go about all this. Do I need a streamer? My amp is naim 72, so pre digital, so guess I'll need a dac?! Was thinking about getting a Sony 700 or similar, do these have dacs? So with these 2 amps in mind, how do I go about this? Sorry for my complete ignorance........... Budget? Well, normally buy second hand, so I guess £100 - £300. Ta.

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    I take it you mean using some kind of subscription streaming service.
    Your laptop will get you started, along with an appropriate analogue output cable.

    Your laptop already has a DAC fronting up the line out/headphone output.
    We're down to £20.00 for hardware.
    Spotify premium is another £9.99 per month.
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    Mike

    I started my digital listening to exactly how you are starting. And fully agree with Chris why not simply start with a lead from your headphone output of your laptop to a spare line input on your Naim. Just search on ebay or amazon etc for '3.5mm to 5 pin naim'. I just did a quick look and see many from around £6 upwards to £15. Maybe you already have such a cable.

    Then simply use one of your spare inputs on your Naim.

    Then stream from wherever you like to get a feel of the sound and controls. Try BBC Radio, Radio Paradise etc. Thousands of free streaming services out there. And suggest you start off with Spotify Free first off. Even though slightly less quality than the paid version the sound is still very good.

    A neat thing about Spotify is that you can use your smart phone to remotely control Spotify playing on your Laptop. Live the life of a couch potato.

    Later on you can buy a DAC which will lift the quality even further from what will anyway be quite good.

    I've done exactly the above for several friends and without exception they have been amazed at the world that has opened up for them.
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    More compact, less power hungry, silent and dedicated to streaming compared to a laptop would be something like this...

    https://volumio.org/product/volumio-mini86/



    add a DAC and you're done...

    or something like with an integrated Sabre DAC (the new ES9028)

    https://www.audiophonics.fr/en/netwo...c-p-12315.html


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    I have a Dragonfly usb dac/ headphone amp with rca leads to amp if interested for the price of 5 packets of L & B. Google dragonfly, pm if interested. Good way to start


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    I have just done what you are intending

    Bit of a ball ache at first but I now have it working

    Do you have Amazon prime ?

    If you do you have free music with the Prime ( Thats what I use )

    I have a used DAC 3 purchased from AOS for £60 , it works OK , I say OK as its in my opinion NOT as good as vinyl

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    Quote Originally Posted by Audio Al View Post
    in my opinion NOT as good as vinyl
    You're playing lowish bitrate MP3s.
    What do expect?
    Polishing turds is not a particularly rewarding pastime
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    yup, the free amazon "prime" service has a lower bitrate than the paid for service for a start. the unlimited is much better sound wise
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    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
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    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


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    Whats a bitrate
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