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    Join Date: Oct 2017

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    I'm Stephen.

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    Hi all,

    I'm looking into changing my Kudos Cardea C30 speakers for some Sonus Fabers, possibly Cremona floorstanders. I'm after a slightly 'fuller' sound but I don't want to sacrifice much in the way of detail or airiness. (I appreciate these are all subjective terms). I would consider other makes and models and I've had quite a few speakers over the years including; Proacs, Audio Physic Virgo 3's, Dali Helicon 800's and Art Audio Emotion monitors.
    I've seen a pair of Art Deco 10 signatures up for sale but I think these would works best with SET valve amps.

    My current gear:

    dCS Classic stack.. Delius, Verdi and Purcell.
    Karan KA i180 integrated,(with a musical fidelity x10 V3 on the non-balanced line in).
    Sony DAB tuner
    Kudos Cardea C30 floorstanders.

    My loungs is approximately 17' x16' with 9' ceilings. So not small but not huge.

    Any comments on experience with Sonus Faber speakers or other makes that might be suitable would be most welcome.

    Many thanks,

    Steve.

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    Hi Steve

    Nice high end system!
    I've never heard your Kudos speakers, but having browsed a couple of reviews I have to confess that I would be looking elsewhere in your system for the next upgrade.
    Based on my own experience of hearing a friend's system before and after a Karan 180 integrated amp was introduced, I'd be at least seriously considering moving that on rather than the speakers.
    The Karan improved a lot of the 'hifi' aspects of that system's performance, but it went a long way to smothering the dynamic life and freedom of the sound. For me it killed the interest in the music.
    Change that is my unasked for advice!

    Just my 2p worth.
    Jerry

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    Hi and welcome Steve. Nice sounding system
    Regards,
    Grant ....

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    hi Jerry,

    Thanks for your comments.
    I know where you're coming from re the Karan amp although I do run an MF X10 V3 between the CD and the amp which brings much life to the sound with that little bit of valve magic. I also run a separate balanced connection between the two which works well depending upon the type of music.
    I've had various valve amps over the years and on the whole I am a big fan of the sound but it has come with varying degrees of aggravation including two which decided to all but self destruct! The other issue is that many top quality speakers require a bit more grip than most valve amps can supply.

    I have seen a pair of Art Deco 10's which will be efficient and I might be tempted to go back down the valve route if I take the plunge with them. Out of interest what are your favourite amps Jerry?

    Cheers, Steve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    Hi and welcome Steve. Nice sounding system

    Thanks Grant.
    Best,
    Steve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spook View Post
    hi Jerry,

    Thanks for your comments.
    I know where you're coming from re the Karan amp although I do run an MF X10 V3 between the CD and the amp which brings much life to the sound with that little bit of valve magic. I also run a separate balanced connection between the two which works well depending upon the type of music.
    I've had various valve amps over the years and on the whole I am a big fan of the sound but it has come with varying degrees of aggravation including two which decided to all but self destruct! The other issue is that many top quality speakers require a bit more grip than most valve amps can supply.

    I have seen a pair of Art Deco 10's which will be efficient and I might be tempted to go back down the valve route if I take the plunge with them. Out of interest what are your favourite amps Jerry?

    Cheers, Steve.
    If youve not already done it, the Rock Grotto mod for the buffer is worthwhile
    Regards,
    Grant ....

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    I have to mention that I am about to sell a pair of ADAM Tensor Gammas.
    They have opened my (eyes) ears so much that I am going to upgrade, they are so bloody good that I am going to Berlin next week to buy the Betas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharos View Post
    I have to mention that I am about to sell a pair of ADAM Tensor Gammas.
    They have opened my (eyes) ears so much that I am going to upgrade, they are so bloody good that I am going to Berlin next week to buy the Betas.
    fab speakers
    Regards,
    Grant ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    If youve not already done it, the Rock Grotto mod for the buffer is worthwhile
    Yes, I've vaguely heard of that. Any links?
    Cheers,
    Steve.

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    http://www.rock-grotto.co.uk/x10v3mods.htm

    if you can solder its an easy enough mod to do yourself.
    Regards,
    Grant ....

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
    DENON DV2900 - TWIN PRO MONOBLOCK AMPLIFIERS - XIANG SHENG DAC\PRE\HEADPHONE AMP - AVANTREE OASIS CLASS 1 BLUETOOTH - AUDIO TECHNICA ATH-MSR7 & OPPO PM-3 PLANAR HEADPHONES - WIN10 JRIVER23, SPOTIFY PREMIUM - ECHO DOT - SMSL M6 MINIDAC - FULL RANGE TWIN TELEFUNKEN's - Q ACOUSTIC BT3 actives - CANTON SUB - MAINS REGENERATED AND FILTERED.

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