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    Default PAYPAL....advice please

    Im trying to sell a musical instrument part, and a buyer overseas wants it.

    He has offered to pay me via PAYPAL gift/friends. I then deliver it to a friend of his, who lives close to me.

    I have a Paypal account, but am not hugely familiar with its workings.

    Am I correct in that paypal gift/friends can not be reversed?

    I would clear the funds out of my Paypal a/c before delivering.

    Could I end up with Paypal chasing me, if this guys funds to them turned out to be dodgy. ie stolen credit card etc?

    Any advice would be great.

    thanks

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    If he pays you as a family/friends payment then he cannot reverse it and has no comeback.
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    As far as I know, he wouldnt. as he chose F&F he is stating no goods were sold thus cant claim goods didnt arrive or were faulty.
    i might add both of you may have paypal account suspended if he did complain
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    Anything paid by credit card or debit card can be reversed by the card issuer, or the card holder asking for a chargeback for various reasons, or saying it was an unathorised transaction.

    Just saying this if he funds it with card.

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    I'm not fully conversant with the rules regarding refunds for friends and family payments, but other than this I would be wary. It is unwise to accept PayPal for anything that involves collection or 'mates delivery' as the buyer, if unscrupulous, can claim the item never arrived, and you would be unable to produce some sort of proof of delivery document if it wasn't shipped.

    Also, don't be fooled by thinking that the money is safe if you remove it from your PayPal account! If PayPal want to take it back then they will, and it will either be deducted from your linked bank account/credit card, or your PayPal account will simply go into a negative balance as they grab back the funds. A recent buyer of mine turned out to be a cretin, who actually stole parts from the amplifier I sold him,before raising a case against me as the item "stopped working". As this was 6 weeks after the sale, I had long withdrawn the funds, and was somewhat annoyed to find my PayPal account over £800 in the red one day, as a result of his complaint!
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    if you are delivering to a friend of his, i would be asking for cash on delivery
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    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    if you are delivering to a friend of his, i would be asking for cash on delivery
    Exactly, get him to send the money to his friend via paypal and get his friend to give you the cash

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJo View Post
    Exactly, get him to send the money to his friend via paypal and get his friend to give you the cash
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beobloke View Post
    I'm not fully conversant with the rules regarding refunds for friends and family payments, but other than this I would be wary. It is unwise to accept PayPal for anything that involves collection or 'mates delivery' as the buyer, if unscrupulous, can claim the item never arrived, and you would be unable to produce some sort of proof of delivery document if it wasn't shipped.
    I agree with the above completely, if the buyer does decide to claim he never received it, you have no way of proving he did.

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    yes agree with whats been said,also never send to anything other than the buyers registered pay pal address.
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