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    Hi Folks

    I'm toying with the idea of trying out a record clamp/weight, are they of any use at all? I have a Notts Analogue interspace SE so no issue with suspension etc.

    What sort of difference should one make to sound etc?

    I bought a 45 rpm adapter from this seller and it's nicely made so I thought I might try a weight from them but they have different weights on offer. The 45 adapter is nicely machined so I'm considering a weight too.

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/45-Record-...YAAOSwrblZmHiD

    any comments welcome. cheers


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    I use mine mainly to hold records from slipping on my glass mat when I clean them before playing. I have not noticed any difference in sound quality on or off.
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    I used one years ago but I didn't notice much difference. It was heavy and it probably just helped wear some bearings out.

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    Ta muchly , any positive experiences out there or should I spend the money on vinyl?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smangus View Post
    Ta muchly , any positive experiences out there or should I spend the money on vinyl?
    Just my 2p

    I use mine on records that are either a bit lightweight or slightly warped. On 180g I dont bother. I found it to add a bit of focus and tighten the bass on some vinyl.

    I recommend buying a cheap one, say 20 off eBay. If you don't like it or can't hear what I hear, it's only 20. If you like it, buy what you want!

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    Ok cool

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    Use anything to hand, it doesn't matter, although this being the hobby it is, if you want to spunk a couple of grand on one you can

    I don't like them on the whole, they sort of improve some aspects and degrade others so it will always be a personal taste thing. Plus I worry about extra wear on the bearing, probably unnecessarily, but who knows?
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    these are good. not particularly heavy but do add a little focus to lightweight stuff. bonus is you get a superb needle cleaner too.
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    There are record clamps and record weights - ostensibly both do the same thing however:

    Clamps: usually screw onto the centre spindle or use a split chuck arrangement to grip the centre spindle. In every case they grip the centre spindle. The problem with this is that the clamp is directly connected to the main bearing which is the primary source of noise outside of the motor. The clamp is also pressed against the record so any noise in the bearing is directly coupled to the record surface and to the same surface the stylus rests on. The second problem is that it's difficult to regulate the pressure that the clamp exerts and it is very likely to vary from record to record and between uses.

    Weights: the problem with weights is primarily - the weight of them . Increasing the load on the bearing is not a good thing. In the worst case it will increase wear and in the best case it will increase noise. In addition, if you use a suspended design you may well alter the resonant frequency of the suspension by increasing the suspended mass and it may even be rendered useless.

    In short, there is no free lunch. Record weights and clamps both bring the record into tighter (not necessarily closer) contact with the record mat/interface. So whatever the sonic colourations (sound) of that interface are will be exaggerated. In other words, you hear the sound of the record mat/interface more. Whether you hear this effect is down to how transparent your system is - but after a certain point record mats and clamps/weights are clearly audible, as are the differences between different types.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubster68 View Post
    I use mine mainly to hold records from slipping on my glass mat when I clean them before playing. I have not noticed any difference in sound quality on or off.
    +1 I have a copper mat so use to stop slipping when cleaning. I did have a project weight that made no difference to sound whatsoever.
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