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    Finally set up a demo account on Tidal attracted by the fact that their classical list on the surface at least appears to be better than Spotify.

    What a load of rubbish - I signed on for their max resolution package, except very few of the recordings actually seem to be at high bit rates.

    On top of that - and its fatal flaw as far as I'm concerned - is the utterly pathetic approach to metadata. So many albums have a performer but no composer - no idea who actually wrote the music being performed.

    Really not to be taken seriously. I'll certainly not be taking a paid transcription.
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    Fully agree Tom. I use to subscribe before jayzee and crew bought Tidal. Dropped the subscription very soon after as things went downhill fast.

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    Spotify Premium is much better in regard to the metadata.
    I had parallel subs to Tidal and Spotify for 4 months and just let Tidal end, I had barely used it, much preferring Spot.
    You get the occasional classical music howler but they are few and far between, tbh.
    It's been my mains source for 2 or 3 years and I am over the moon with it. A fantastic way to discover and listen to music.
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    For Classical, I think Qobuz is very good.

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    I can't comment on Tidal for classical music but for Jazz and related it's bearable..Just.
    A massive amount of Albums repackaged up with bloody awful covers and renamed with alternative Titles and no information.
    Me thinks these are licence issues. I believe after a certain time (50 odd years rings a bell) the Label has no control over who repackages and reissues albums.
    Anyway one is left with dire duplications of LPs with alternative titles and utterly terrible artwork. I've just cancelled my Tidal subscription
    because the attention to the genre is unbelievably lazy. Also lots of tracks within Lps are greyed out!!

    Tom, I agree with Jonners, give Qobuz a spin, they seem to have a better approach.

    Slightly off topic, disappointing for me is the wonderful ECM label..they don't stream their catalogue on any platform at all, disappointing but an admirable and
    brave stance in this vicious industry. SQ wise i've been pretty impressed with some of Tidal's content.
    Better metadata?, You could always link your stored files and your music subscription account with Roon, this will tie it all together and give you better information and presentation.
    but then it's more expense and more faffing about...
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    Quote Originally Posted by montesquieu View Post
    Finally set up a demo account on Tidal attracted by the fact that their classical list on the surface at least appears to be better than Spotify.

    What a load of rubbish - I signed on for their max resolution package, except very few of the recordings actually seem to be at high bit rates.

    On top of that - and its fatal flaw as far as I'm concerned - is the utterly pathetic approach to metadata. So many albums have a performer but no composer - no idea who actually wrote the music being performed.

    Really not to be taken seriously. I'll certainly not be taking a paid transcription.
    almost nothing i listen to is on tidal [berlin school of music] i did not bother either !
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    Content wise I have hit it lucky with Spotify. There is just so much that is of interest that I am not bothered by what isn't there.
    I could spend a dozen music lifetimes and still be discovering new gems.
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    The big feature of spotify is the connect bit. it and a decent metadata system makes it the better approach. Even at 250mb it sounds pretty good. When they go lossless the rest will maybe change there ways or die.
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    Thanks guys I'll look again at Spotify and Qubuz, I tried once to set up a Qubuz account but I think I was abroad at the time (Taiwan or Japan) and I couldn't log in when I got back!
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    Spotify sound quality isn't liveable with for me - it is pretty obviously inferior to TIDAL via my system. Qobuz was a joke compared to TIDAL with software that was a total pain in the arse. But that was a long time ago.

    For the stuff I listen too, when I crossed checked with Spotify recently, Spotify's breadth of content was not superior and was actually worse in a few cases.

    TIDAL's mobile app is a big plus for me as I use it a lot at work and in the car. Spotify's used to continually lose all my downloads. These days I'd hope they've fixed that.
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