The vinyl illusion ?

[Haselsh1]

OK some bastard shoot me ferchristssake. I have just listened to that bloody album again

Vinyl has been reset. VTA was OK but tracking force has been increased from 2.5g to 2.65g.

Vinyl DSOTM has the most amazing stereo presence that completely engulfs the room especially the lower clock chime on 'Time' and also the really low frequencies on 'On The Run'. The sound is richer and considerably fuller all round with this completely amazing presence.

CD, way more treble information with an amazing amount of 'air' and 'sparkle'. Thinner sound experience all round and not quite as satisfying. With this in mind I prefer my vinyl sound. However, the treble on the TT is heavy and leaden with no real 'sparkle' or precision.

I think I am going to have to lift the arse end of the tonearm and see what effect that has on the sound. I have found in the past that it has improved things.

Looks as though I am going to have to play that bloody album again

[struth]

One of the advantages of digital. Very little faff

[Haselsh1]

One of the advantages of digital. Very little faff

Love it...!

[Haselsh1]

One of the advantages of digital. Very little faff

I think I may take up coppicing, it's just as old and bloody antiquated. Then again, up here there's a nice little niche in folk singers.

[Arkless Electronics]

If it's a spherical stylus DL103 then there's your likely culprit in terms of HF sparkle and precision...IMHO

The Dynavector phono stage is a good unit and the nearest rival to the Arkless 640P in SQ according to several of my customers. About 50:50 for preferance for the Arkless or the Dynavector.... of course the Dynavector is 3 times the price of the Arkless 640P "Other phono stages are available"

[Haselsh1]

If it's a spherical stylus DL103 then there's your likely culprit in terms of HF sparkle and precision...IMHO

Thanks Jez I had thought about that. My older Benz Micro Silver had a much brighter presentation but then it sounded more like CD.

[Arkless Electronics]

Thanks Jez I had thought about that. My older Benz Micro Silver had a much brighter presentation but then it sounded more like CD.

More accurate! As I said earlier, the closer we get to perfect sound, the more alike things should sound.

[Macca]

Again, I'd say it depends on the type of music you're listening to. A single instrument can sound somehow enhanced by some distortion (I'm not talking about gross clipping here) and two or three instruments playing very sparsely can appear to benefit from some distortion too, but when a lot of instruments are playing very busy music it all falls apart and the distortion is revealed as the pernicious thing it really is.

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I agree but that is not the sort of distortion I'm talking about. If it was then nothing would sound good on vinyl except girl with guitar. The inherent distortions of vinyl replay actually subjectively enhance the sound pretty much regardless of how complex the recording is. You're talking about the distortion that some manufacturers use to get what I call 'fake hi-fi'. That is, it sounds good, breathtaking even, with very clean, sparse recordings and harsh and hard with anything else. Then the recordings get blamed. 'Cloth eared engineers' and so on. Ludicrous but it is endemic now.

Was reading on another forum just yesterday where a bloke had just installed some new £8K interconnects and although some recordings were now 'mind blowing' his original pressing of 'Electric Ladyland' had been rendered 'unlistenable'. Something gone badly wrong there on more than one level.

[walpurgis]

If it's a spherical stylus DL103 then there's your likely culprit in terms of HF sparkle and precision...IMHO

That's what I found. The DL-103R is better though.

[Haselsh1]

Was reading on another forum just yesterday where a bloke had just installed some new £8K interconnects and although some recordings were now 'mind blowing' his original pressing of 'Electric Ladyland' had been rendered 'unlistenable'. Something gone badly wrong there on more than one level.

Yeah, maybe Hendrix should've played a Moog modular