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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratmangler View Post
    What's the connection to some far fetched and outdated thinking methodology?
    https://www.healthline.com/health/le...-brain-theory2
    Well, I fundamentally believe that it explains a lot about how people think (and also problem-solve), as indeed Martin has alluded to

    Creative thinking is an art form, and most certainly can be applied to both the design and use of audio equipment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    As stated by you in a previous post:


    I wondered if your disinterest in the accuracy of your audio system applied to your photography. Not so much with the taking of a photograph (the source), but with the subsequent reproduction of the image. Is the printing of the negative also part of the creative process, or should it be a perfect 'mechanical' reproduction? If not, would you frame your photographs using tinted glass, or view them under a coloured light source?

    Probably not a useful analogy thinking about it.
    don't get me started on photography, another bullshit subjective interest
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    You seem in a rather strange mood today, Paul. Is everything ok?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qwin View Post
    There aren't many sound engineers that would disagree with the statement that digital is more accurate to the source than analogue.
    That doesn't mean that analogue doesn't sound nice and in many cases adds a desirable effect. I joked about it a while back on another thread, saying it would be nice if they could crack what was special about analogue tape and build a filter to replicate this. Little did I know that mastering engineers and producers have been using devices to achieve this for quite a while. Look up the Burl B2 Bomber ADC and DAC on YouTube and see how they rave about the similarity to the old tape sound.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9CXBcLLR0U
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    One Theory put forward by one of the worlds top mastering engineers was that analogue tape actually slows down the transient speed of high end frequencies in particular and the perceived speed of the recording as it hits our ears. Whereas digital recordings due to the sampling procedure actually speed up the sound of a recording especially where a digital system actually moves between the sampled bits. It is only a small effect but is picked up by our brains. This may explain why analogue tape sounds so good?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe View Post
    I'm good at daydreaming and procrastination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    Hi Ken how are you?

    One Theory put forward by one of the worlds top mastering engineers was that analogue tape actually slows down the transient speed of high end frequencies in particular and the perceived speed of the recording as it hits our ears. Whereas digital recordings due to the sampling procedure actually speed up the sound of a recording especially where a digital system actually moves between the sampled bits. It is only a small effect but is picked up by our brains. This may explain why analogue tape sounds so good?
    I've heard a number of people say that the original analogue master tape sounds closer to a good digital playback than it does to a good vinyl playback. Any truth to that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    Hi Ken how are you?

    One Theory put forward by one of the worlds top mastering engineers was that analogue tape actually slows down the transient speed of high end frequencies in particular and the perceived speed of the recording as it hits our ears. Whereas digital recordings due to the sampling procedure actually speed up the sound of a recording especially where a digital system actually moves between the sampled bits. It is only a small effect but is picked up by our brains. This may explain why analogue tape sounds so good?
    All complete hogwash I'm afraid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by magiccarpetride View Post
    I've heard a number of people say that the original analogue master tape sounds closer to a good digital playback than it does to a good vinyl playback. Any truth to that?
    Charlie Top Oxford Doc is your man to ask that. He's got some masters on RTR I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by magiccarpetride View Post
    I've heard a number of people say that the original analogue master tape sounds closer to a good digital playback than it does to a good vinyl playback. Any truth to that?
    Interestingly Alex I have actually heard a digital system recently that sounds very close to mastertape. I used to listen to quite a lot of 24 track mastertape when I did some contract work for Island records back in the very early eighties and have heard plenty of R2R over the years so know very well how good it can sound. Trying to describe the sound of mastertape recordings is a bit tricky but one aspect I feel is very prominent is the smoothness of the sound,it feels effortless and very natural.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkless Electronics View Post
    All complete hogwash I'm afraid.
    And of course you are a top mastering engineer with vast digital audio knowledge?
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