Current Lash Up:
TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > JM Labs Focal Electra 926.
Lol - this subject keeps coming up again and again [and again]... Jim, you've heard my T/T at NEBO, which at the time you said was one of the best sounds you've ever heard from vinyl, and I can assure you (as indeed Macca will confirm, as he's heard both in my system), my CD player sounds very similar.
Not the *same*, but so close, as I've said before, that when lying back listening to music, I often forget whether it's a record playing or a CD (based on the former being a pristine vinyl pressing with very low surface noise). I certainly wouldn't be able to do that if CD inherently "lacks soul".
The fact is, it doesn't. It simply necessitates the use of the right digital equipment, in order to release its full potential - and that full potential, in my experience, ably allows it to compete favourably with any turntable. Note, however, I'm not saying that it betters it.
And yes, there will always be differences between digital and analogue, but not the huge discrepancies some claim, which exist simply because either the digital or analogue source equipment being used isn't capable of revealing the full potential of the partnering music software. When that's NOT the case, the real differences are small.
It's *that* simple, folks!
Marco.
Main System
Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.
Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.
Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.
CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.
Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.
Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.
Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.
Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.
Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.
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I have the exact same experience with Abbey Road -- the 2012 180 gram remastered LP sounds dull and lifeless compared to the original LP.
But (and it's a BIG but!), the old DIDN'T sound superior to the new one before I washed and vacuumed it in my RCM. That's a very important (I'd say a vital step) when comparing analogue to digital -- is the LP cleaned and vacuumed or not?
Don't you just hate it when you cannot detect where the post ends and a signature line begins?
Alex.
Many modern pressing are taken from digital not the original analogue master tapes.....
Regards Neil
Don't you just hate it when you cannot detect where the post ends and a signature line begins?
Alex.
Got an original and a remaster too quite like both
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Original Beatles albums (stereo or mono) always sound best, closely followed by expertly produced reissues, remastered using the original tapes, such as those from 2012. To ensure that the sonic characteristics of the original tapes are faithfully captured, that process *must* be conducted in the analogue domain, from start to finish.
The rest? Forget it! Unless you're happy owning a substandard product.
Marco.
Main System
Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.
Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.
Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.
CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.
Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.
Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.
Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.
Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.
Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.
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Not possible though because when you come to cut your vinyl record the signal is converted to digital for the cutter head. This is really the killer for those who believe that analogue has some sort of intrinsic 'purity'. Any pressing dated later than 1979 is digital, as are quite a few from before that date.
Current Lash Up:
TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > JM Labs Focal Electra 926.
Location: East Riding of Yorkshire these days
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I'm Shaun.
Yeah, done all of the record cleaning with a Moth RCM so that can be removed from the equation. It has no bearing on this thread I'm afraid and I also have a very old pressing of DSOTM that is not overly knackered but I wouldn't really want to play the whole thing. This pressing dates back to around 1979.
I am going to have another sesh at some point today but the weather is superb this morning and the Harley is calling from afar.
I may try out some old classics like The Climax Blues Band, original pressing and Brand X Moroccan Roll just to see if age really does make a difference because there is no way these two albums are digital anything.
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I'm Dennis.
We could question whether or not the vinyl medium's deficiencies serve to mask inherent unpleasantness in poor recordings which digital allows to be heard, it is possible.
I have never really considered any Beatles stuff to be of very good audio quality, it was for me the song writing which mattered.