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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkless Electronics View Post
    Valve mics, including the u47, are still widely used today and in fact much more so than any other type.... that didn't really change much when mixing desks went over to transistors. I have a modern Rode valve mic myself.
    Yes, they're widely used today in studios where quality comes first, not exactly universally. More importantly, in terms of the point I'm making, they significantly influence the sound of recordings [in a very musically beneficial way] - more so than any solid-state microphone ever produced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Yes, they're widely used today in studios where quality comes first, not exactly universally. More importantly, in terms of the point I'm making, they significantly influence the sound of recordings produced [in a very musically beneficial way] - more so than any solid-state microphone ever produced.

    Next, we'll tackle the similar sonic benefits of the best valve mixing desks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratmangler View Post
    Shure SM57 is the sound of rock.
    I was never able to capture that sound of rock in my studio using Shure SM57. So I sold it at a marginal profit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratmangler View Post
    Shure SM57 is the sound of rock.
    Yeah sure, that's also undoubtedly been influential, but in a different way. I still think that, properly used and implemented, the U47's the king

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    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magiccarpetride View Post
    I was never able to capture that sound of rock in my studio using Shure SM57. So I sold it at a marginal profit.
    What were you running it into?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratmangler View Post
    What were you running it into?
    Tascam 4 channel audio cassette recording studio.
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    Quote Originally Posted by magiccarpetride View Post
    Tascam 4 channel audio cassette recording studio.
    The Tascam stuff is usually pretty clean sounding.
    XLR input?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    I agree that's a significant part of it, but so is the likes of tube-driven Telefunken U47 microphones, which unquestionably have a unique sound, and one which in my opinion captures the natural detail/tone of instruments, and the warmth and richness of the human voice, like no other.



    Marco.
    But is it as good as the original?



    It would seem Telefunken are now making modern replicas of other vintage and highly regarded valve microphones such as the AKG C12 and C24.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratmangler View Post
    The Tascam stuff is usually pretty clean sounding.
    XLR input?
    Yeah. I probably didn't know how to mic it properly... So I switched to condenser microphones, which pick up subtle details much more readily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    But is it as good as the original?



    It would seem Telefunken are now making modern replicas of other vintage and highly regarded valve microphones such as the AKG C12 and C24.
    Check out the Neumann "Hitler" mics. Early hi fi condenser mics with built in valve etc.

    Back in the day Telefunken re-badged all sorts of other German studio equipment and AFAIK the Telefunken was a Neumann. I could be wrong on that though of course...
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