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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    I said almost. What was computerised in a recording studio in 1967? What was transistorised?
    ...and no mention of recording studio earlier.
    Seeing as you just mentioned the studio, transistor power amps from Crown have been around since the early 60s.
    So have Neve Electronics.
    Quad released the 33/303 in 1967.

    Computers hadn't hit the studio back then.
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    Electronic and Musical Industries' first transistorised console

    This console was produced by Electronic and Musical Industries Research Laboratories, Hayes, to a design brief submitted by the engineers at the company's studios in London NW8. The requirement was for a transistorized ("solid state") 24 channel to 8-track mixing console to replace the tube mixers which had been in use at the studios since the early 1960s. A specification for the console was drafted in December 1967, and a prototype was delivered in the fall of 1968 and installed in Studio 2 in December. In time then to record The Beatles last album, the eponymous Abbey Road in July 1969.
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    When I stated "masking", I meant it in a more general way (obscuring), not specifically as in one sound masking another as in audio usage.

    Wasn't "Let it Be" the last Beatles album?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharos View Post
    Wasn't "Let it Be" the last Beatles album?
    Depends on how you look at it.
    It wasn't the last album The Beatles worked on and recorded - that was Abbey Road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkless Electronics View Post
    Lots of stuff was transistorised by 1967. The vast majority of new stuff at the time was for a start...
    Indeed, I believe that they were in common use from the early 60s. Folks (as ever) were all too keen to embrace the (then) new technology, particularly EEs, when valves became more unreliable, as production quality took a nosedive in the late 60s.

    I'm reliably informed that transistors were heralded as the new 'sonic saviour', signalling an end to the 'faff' of using tubes, simplifying the design of audio circuits accordingly. I'm told, however, that some of the early SS amps sounded truly dire, until the technology matured enough and was properly understood by engineers, in order to make the most out of it.

    In terms of the effect of the above on recording studios [the initial transition from valve to transistor equipment], I firmly believe that some of the awful sounding, dull as ditchwater recordings on vinyl, from the early 70s, were as a result of sound engineers and technicians still getting to grips with the new equipment - and in some cases failing miserably!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratmangler View Post
    Depends on how you look at it.
    It wasn't the last album The Beatles worked on and recorded - that was Abbey Road.
    Yup. It was released after abbey but recorded before
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratmangler View Post
    ...and no mention of recording studio earlier.
    Seeing as you just mentioned the studio, transistor power amps from Crown have been around since the early 60s.
    So have Neve Electronics.
    Quad released the 33/303 in 1967.
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    Computers hadn't hit the studio back then.
    Yes I meant there were no computers in the whole world back in 1967, I really am that stupid...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    Yes I meant there were no computers in the whole world back in 1967, I really am that stupid...
    I failed my mind reading exams at school .....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    In terms of the effect of the above on recording studios [the initial transition from valve to transistor equipment], I firmly believe that some of the awful sounding, dull as ditchwater recordings on vinyl, from the early 70s, were as a result of sound engineers and technicians still getting to grips with the new equipment - and in some cases failing miserably!
    There are all sorts of mastering problems that can be attributed directly to the monitoring speakers used, and recordings that are overly bright because the monitors were dull in the high frequencies.
    Likewise with monitors that are "brightly lit",and the recording being dull.

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    I think someone here may find this of interest regarding computer history between 1960 - 1980

    https://www.computerhope.com/history/196080.htm
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