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    Not sure that anything is 'designed' to be left switched on. I don't think putting he on/off switch at the back counts. That to me is just playing to market expectations. To say it is designed that way implies to me there is something about the circuit design that makes this preferable. Maybe a resident double E can confirm but I don't think there is any special way to design a circuit so it is better left powered up than not.
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    I'd like to know what is 'special' about items of Hi-Fi that are intended to be left switched on. What separates them from other equipment that gets turned off?

    I don't believe in 'operating temperature' or 'stabilising' that demands perpetual power on, It doesn't need to be live 24/7 to achieve this. Much of my gear does sound better after being on for a while, but that takes between 15 and 30 minutes, that's all. And I don't leave it switched on! (unless I forget of course )
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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    I'd like to know what is 'special' about items of Hi-Fi that are intended to be left switched on. What separates them from other equipment that gets turned off?

    I don't believe in 'operating temperature' or 'stabilising' that demands perpetual power on, It doesn't need to be live 24/7 to achieve this. Much of my gear does sound better after being on for a while, but that takes between 15 and 30 minutes, that's all. And I don't leave it switched on! (unless I forget of course )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    Not sure that anything is 'designed' to be left switched on. I don't think putting he on/off switch at the back counts. That to me is just playing to market expectations. To say it is designed that way implies to me there is something about the circuit design that makes this preferable. Maybe a resident double E can confirm but I don't think there is any special way to design a circuit so it is better left powered up than not.
    Yes that's correct and is as I said in an earlier post. Also there is no way to design a circuit so it is better left switched on, as you correctly surmise.

    I guess it's mainly marketing bullshit (as is half of everything said about hi fi!) intended to maybe convey an image that something is so "special", "sensitive" and "refined" that it cannot be disturbed by being switched off. Bollocks more like!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkless Electronics View Post

    I guess it's mainly marketing bullshit (as is half of everything said about hi fi!) !
    I'd say more like 80 to 90 percent. There is so much manufacturer bullshit aimed at the mug punter nowadays that countering it is like shovelling shit against the tide. Digital now seems to be the main area where nonsense rules. You've got DAC designers claiming they design for aspects of performance that cannot be measured. If it cannot be measured how can you design for it? I was reading a technical review the other day of some gadget that you string in between source and DAC that claims to reduce noise and distortion. In fact, with the recommended power supply (itself a few hundred quid), it actually increases both noise and distortion! With a laboratory grade power supply it just does nothing at all.

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