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    12" Stabi stogi owner here. Central Sheffield if you'd like a listen.
    Kuzma Stabi/S 12", (LP12-bastard) DC motor and optical tacho psu, Benz LP, Paradise (phonostage). MB-Pro, Brooklyn dac and psu, Bruno Putzeys balanced pre, mod86p dual mono amps, Yamaha NS1000m

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob4333 View Post
    Gyro + SME = Choice pairing.

    Both well engineered and likely to hold their price if you decide that ultimately they're not for you. You don't see too many advertised, folk tend to hang on to them.

    And both will work well with other combo's if you decide to split. The 309 is capable of taking a better cartridge if your experience takes you that way.

    Visually the Kuzma leaves me cold. (but, I know, we don't listen with our eyes).
    Hi Bob, thanks for the insight, my preference is leaning towards the Kuzma.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sq225917 View Post
    12" Stabi stogi owner here. Central Sheffield if you'd like a listen.
    Hi Simon, thanks for the offer, what phono stage would you suggest using with the Kuzma ?.
    If i get it I may have to enlist your help in setting it up.

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    Personally I'm not that keen on the sound of the Michell decks.
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    Vircon on here has a Kuzma and it sounds terrific. Much less of a mechanical sound that you can get from the Michell. I know i heve had three Michell's A Gyro, a Gyro SE and an Orbe. The Kuzma was much more involving to my ears. I had a top end Whest too, never again!

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    Well i have been favoring the Kuzma over the Michell,
    Is there any big advantage of the Stogi S over the Stogi tonearm, to me the Stogi looks a better design than the Stogi S,
    but looks can be deceiving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorkshireman View Post
    Well i have been favoring the Kuzma over the Michell,
    Is there any big advantage of the Stogi S over the Stogi tonearm, to me the Stogi looks a better design than the Stogi S,
    but looks can be deceiving.
    Not something I would know. However, i will ask Vircon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorkshireman View Post
    Hi Simon, thanks for the offer, what phono stage would you suggest using with the Kuzma ?.
    If i get it I may have to enlist your help in setting it up.
    Be really nice and Simon will make a paradise for you

    + chance to listen to the Yam

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    I'd match the phonostage to your cart choice. I run a Benz LP and a Paradise. The Paradise will run any MC cart between 0.15mV and 0.5mV, cart loading easily adjustable to each cart. Let me know if you fancy a listen. It's set up with a Bruno Putzeys pre, pair of 120 watt monos and Yamaha NS1000m with RAAL ribbon tweeters.

    The S is a unipivot, some people, myself included, prefer the fluidity that a good unipivot can deliver. I'm not wedded to the concept, it was the only sensibly priced 12" I could have fitted at the time, not being a fan of SME arms which I find a touch cold and sterile.
    Kuzma Stabi/S 12", (LP12-bastard) DC motor and optical tacho psu, Benz LP, Paradise (phonostage). MB-Pro, Brooklyn dac and psu, Bruno Putzeys balanced pre, mod86p dual mono amps, Yamaha NS1000m

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorkshireman View Post
    Hi Bob, thanks for the insight, my preference is leaning towards the Kuzma.
    Nothing amiss with that, form follows function.

    Good luck with it, and it looks as though there are a lot of people on here with experience of the Kuzma prepared to help.
    Source: Orbe SE / SME IV / Cadenza Bronze
    Source: WD NAS / Cyrus Stream X2 / Chord DAVE
    Source: Oppo UDP-205 (CD/DVD-A/SACD)

    Amplification: Icon Audio PS 3 Sig Phono + Audio Research LS27 + Musical Fidelity A5cr Power Amp
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    Other bits: Okki Nokki keeping things clean

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