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  1. #31
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    I suspect the motor will be $12,000 and the Motor/plinth/arm about $20,000.

    An interesting link to measurements of various Technics DD tables, starting at #329 http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/analo...ml#post5180497

    Compare the Mk3 to the -1200GAE, it's rather illuminating. I suspect the SP-10R will be as good or better than the Mk3.

    Also worth note, Scott Wurcer is working in that thread to make a good standard for measuring TT polars.
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    The SP10R feature in the latest (November) edition of Hifi Choice shows price as 10,000 Euros - just shy of 9K
    Available summer 2018 .....
    My System:
    Amplification - Sansui AU-919 Complete overhaul, upgraded, re-capped. Caps upgraded from 4 x 15,000 uf to 4 x 20,000 uf-inside original oval caps. All glue and 'black flags' removed
    Turntable - Modified Technics SL1210 MK5G
    Mike New precision bearing, bearing base plate, ETP Platter
    Micro Seiki MA-202 tonearm, rewired, hybrid ceramic bearings
    Ortofon Cadenza Black moving coil cartridge
    Yannis Tome 423.5 Silver-Litz tonearm cable with Eichmann Silver Bullet plugs
    Ebony armboard
    Audio Technica MS-8 Magnesium headshell, Ortofon pure silver headshell leads
    Isonoe Isolation Feet
    Paul Hynes SR7EHD PSU (plus regulator modules), DCSXL pure-silver DC lead with Jaegar low impedance connector
    CDP - Pioneer PD-91
    Speakers - Mission 752 Freedom
    QED Silver Spiral speaker cable, Airlock plugs - bare wire amp end.
    Mains - Ultra Pure silver plated un-switched socket, Missing link EPS 500 silver plated plugs with Hi-Fi Tuning gold plated silver ceramic 13 amp fuses

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    Well, they were never going to be giving them away. it's a serious chunk of cutter for a record player. And you need to buy a tonearm and cartridge as well. And a phono stage good enough to do it justice.

    Probably still better value than the mega-priced bling decks, though. But out of my reach.
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    That's revolting. Utterly turned off by the price.

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    I would think that a company like Technics expect to sell a lot of these so would not charge crazy prices. Clearly, there is a lot of precision engineering going on here but I would be very surprised if it sells for more than $10k and possibly even around $7k! Wishful thinking, perhaps?

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    A lot of beans indeed.

    My approach would have been exactly as you did it Oliver, if I ever had gone SP10. As that for me is where the genuine value is to be had and the smart money would go.

    Watch prices for the MK2 and 3 rocket with the attention around this one coupled with its big price tag.

    People who dont properly know like us will get to realise how good and good value an original in good shape could be.

    The SP10 was always a top deck just needing a good arm and cart and not much else really.

    I also dont believe the new one will be a great, big, large (however you choose to put it) degree better sonically, it will be as good as the original or a little better but no where near where you're starting point for deck only is 9K as pretty as she might be, all in my opinion of course
    My System:
    Amplification - Sansui AU-919 Complete overhaul, upgraded, re-capped. Caps upgraded from 4 x 15,000 uf to 4 x 20,000 uf-inside original oval caps. All glue and 'black flags' removed
    Turntable - Modified Technics SL1210 MK5G
    Mike New precision bearing, bearing base plate, ETP Platter
    Micro Seiki MA-202 tonearm, rewired, hybrid ceramic bearings
    Ortofon Cadenza Black moving coil cartridge
    Yannis Tome 423.5 Silver-Litz tonearm cable with Eichmann Silver Bullet plugs
    Ebony armboard
    Audio Technica MS-8 Magnesium headshell, Ortofon pure silver headshell leads
    Isonoe Isolation Feet
    Paul Hynes SR7EHD PSU (plus regulator modules), DCSXL pure-silver DC lead with Jaegar low impedance connector
    CDP - Pioneer PD-91
    Speakers - Mission 752 Freedom
    QED Silver Spiral speaker cable, Airlock plugs - bare wire amp end.
    Mains - Ultra Pure silver plated un-switched socket, Missing link EPS 500 silver plated plugs with Hi-Fi Tuning gold plated silver ceramic 13 amp fuses

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobbieGong View Post
    A lot of beans indeed.

    My approach would have been exactly as you did it Oliver, if I ever had gone SP10. As that for me is where the genuine value is to be had and the smart money would go.

    Watch prices for the MK2 and 3 rocket with the attention around this one coupled with its big price tag.

    People who dont properly know like us will get to realise how good and good value an original in good shape could be.

    The SP10 was always a top deck just needing a good arm and cart and not much else really.

    I also dont believe the new one will be a great, big, large (however you choose to put it) degree better sonically, it will be as good as the original or a little better but no where near where you're starting point for deck only is 9K as pretty as she might be, all in my opinion of course
    Yes Robbie, I think the money I've spent is being repaid in full by the quality of sound I'm getting.

    The price of the SP10R is going to greatly impact the SP10mk3 the most. If you can get a new Sp10r for 7-10k, who's gonna pay that for an old MK3?

    The MK3 btw is very difficult to repair so I'm told. No issues with the MK2 as it's all completely replaceable components. Can't do that with a MK3

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    Exactly Oliver, the smart money goes on a MK2 SP10. Then get it to a good tech who knows what they are doing for a proper service \ overhaul (as you know)

    Genuine and respected high end audiophile tt and not daft money
    My System:
    Amplification - Sansui AU-919 Complete overhaul, upgraded, re-capped. Caps upgraded from 4 x 15,000 uf to 4 x 20,000 uf-inside original oval caps. All glue and 'black flags' removed
    Turntable - Modified Technics SL1210 MK5G
    Mike New precision bearing, bearing base plate, ETP Platter
    Micro Seiki MA-202 tonearm, rewired, hybrid ceramic bearings
    Ortofon Cadenza Black moving coil cartridge
    Yannis Tome 423.5 Silver-Litz tonearm cable with Eichmann Silver Bullet plugs
    Ebony armboard
    Audio Technica MS-8 Magnesium headshell, Ortofon pure silver headshell leads
    Isonoe Isolation Feet
    Paul Hynes SR7EHD PSU (plus regulator modules), DCSXL pure-silver DC lead with Jaegar low impedance connector
    CDP - Pioneer PD-91
    Speakers - Mission 752 Freedom
    QED Silver Spiral speaker cable, Airlock plugs - bare wire amp end.
    Mains - Ultra Pure silver plated un-switched socket, Missing link EPS 500 silver plated plugs with Hi-Fi Tuning gold plated silver ceramic 13 amp fuses

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobbieGong View Post
    The SP10R feature in the latest (November) edition of Hifi Choice shows price as €10,000 Euros - just shy of 9K
    Available summer 2018 .....
    Is that the price for the motor unit only? Och well, never mind. It's a good job that I'm happy with my TTS-8000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobbieGong View Post
    Exactly Oliver, the smart money goes on a MK2 SP10. Then get it to a good tech who knows what they are doing for a proper service \ overhaul (as you know)

    Genuine and respected high end audiophile tt and not daft money
    Add in a Tenuto platter mat and your as good as a MK3 anyway.

    Found a firm online who re-finish the metalwork of the SP10. 190 and can be left in the finish as intended from the factory or painted any colour you like. It's a good step if you can pick up an old one with a bit of cosmetic wear. Keeps the price down.

    Sent from my EVA-L09 using Tapatalk
    Technics SP10 MK2 > Phonomac AT-1010 tonearm > ZYX R50 Bloom cartridge > Jolida JD9 MKII > Firebottle Monoblocks > Creek OBH-11SE Headphone Amp > IXOS Speaker Cables > Pioneer CS-77A Speakers

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