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    Quote Originally Posted by YNWaN View Post
    Oh, made those myself - based on an AMT device.
    if i may ask a stupid question,can you add the super tweeters without wiring to the x-over?
    ie straight to the terminals with a cap in line?
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    Yes. That's what I do. As far as I'm concerned, it's the best way. There's no benefit in interfering with the crossover. The series cap value is very important though. There is a tendency for people to pick too large a value. Start with 0.5mF and see.
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    It’s a Dayton Audio unit. I’ll post some pics of them tomorrow if you like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YNWaN View Post
    It’s a Dayton Audio unit. I’ll post some pics of them tomorrow if you like.
    Ideal as a super tweeter. If I recall response is near flat to 40kHz. What filter are you using Mark? My guess is that a cap around 0.2uFd should function about right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YNWaN View Post
    It’s a Dayton Audio unit. I’ll post some pics of them tomorrow if you like.
    yes please.

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    Sorry the picture is a bit dark:



    They are built around a couple of small Dayton AMT units. As mentioned above, they are surprisingly flat out to 40K and, as luck would have it, both the sensitivity and impedance are in line with my requirements so very well matched. The little stands are mad from a mixture of Corina and acrylic. It looks like they use a 1st order crossover but it’s a touch more complicated than that as they are actually in series with the tweeter crossover. They are set to point slightly off axis and down at the listener. I made a laser alignment tool to help set them up .
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    Hmm. I assume Mark, that you are saying the Daytons are fed directly from the same filter section that the Yamaha tweeters are on?

    If so, then the Daytons will be outputting across the same treble range, at least until the Yamaha tweeter rolls off, probably in the upper twenties of KHz. This also lowers the HF impedance to a nominal 4 ohms and that would alter the treble curve, giving the whole top end an inaccurate response.

    If it was me, I'd definitely run the Daytons on their own parallel filter. A single cap in series with the supertweeter should do the job, providing a 6db/oct introduction at whatever chosen frequency. I'd aim at above 18kHz. This can be fed from the rear speaker terminals without needing to access the crossover. Output from the Dayton should not be significantly audible. If it is, then the filter is coming in too low.
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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    Hmm. I assume Mark, that you are saying the Daytons are fed directly from the same filter section that the Yamaha tweeters are on?

    If so, then the Daytons will be outputting across the same treble range, at least until the Yamaha tweeter rolls off, probably in the upper twenties of KHz. This also lowers the HF impedance to a nominal 4 ohms and that would alter the treble curve, giving the whole top end an inaccurate response.

    If it was me, I'd definitely run the Daytons on their own parallel filter. A single cap in series with the supertweeter should do the job, providing a 6db/oct introduction at whatever chosen frequency. I'd aim at above 18kHz. This can be fed from the rear speaker terminals without needing to access the crossover. Output from the Dayton should not be significantly audible. If it is, then the filter is coming in too low.
    Well there is a series cap to the super-tweeters - it’s 1.5uF. However, as it is then in series with one at 2.7uF it may be that the 1.5 should be increased to 3.5uF. Il give it a try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YNWaN View Post
    Sorry the picture is a bit dark:



    They are built around a couple of small Dayton AMT units. As mentioned above, they are surprisingly flat out to 40K and, as luck would have it, both the sensitivity and impedance are in line with my requirements so very well matched. The little stands are mad from a mixture of Corina and acrylic. It looks like they use a 1st order crossover but it’s a touch more complicated than that as they are actually in series with the tweeter crossover. They are set to point slightly off axis and down at the listener. I made a laser alignment tool to help set them up .
    Nicely made Mark. I like those
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