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  1. #151
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chivas View Post
    I've been toying with the idea to have my dad's old LP12 restored with a unipivot arm and a Decca. I know some people say a unipivot and suspended arm is not a good idea, but others have had success with this combination, and I'm curious enough to try it. So please let me know if you do decide to sell the Decca (again). If I can source the right arm I may very well be tempted into doing something silly...


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    Can I just ask as I notice in your signature you use a Croft RIAA R phono stage. What do you think of it ?
    Main system : VPI Scout 1.1 / JMW 9T / 2M Black / Croft 25R+ / Croft 7 / Heco Celan GT 702

    Second System : Goldring Lenco GL75 / AT95EX / Pioneer SX590 / Spendor SP2

  2. #152
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    Can I just ask as I notice in your signature you use a Croft RIAA R phono stage. What do you think of it ?
    I thought it was brilliant and excellent value for money - much better than the standard RIAA. A very organic sound with lots of soul, texture and weight. Some would say perhaps not the most accurate on a test bench but I couldn't care less

    I now use an Audio Note M3 phono which is better - but for considerable more ££. I could easily live with the Croft, but wanted to reduce the box count and was hoping to achieve synergy with the integrated AN phono and pre, and my AN IO 2 cartridge, rather than an Icon Audio pre, Croft phono and AN cart, so sold the pre and phono on

    Incidentally Croft/Decca and croft/harbeth combinations have a cult following - and I also use Harbeth 40.1 speakers now

    PS. My system has changed quite a bit from the one listed in my signature, but I'm unable to find the "edit" button to update it for some reason


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    Analogue: Origin Live Resolution mk2,OL Encounter mk3c,MM III and isolator.Digital:CA 840C.Amplification:Croft RIAA R, Icon Audio LA4mkii,Icon Audio MB845 signature version.Speakers: Kef Reference 203/2 Cables: Mark Grant G2000HD. Speaker cable Van Damme Hi-Fi UP-LCOFC.Headphone: Grado PS1000,HD650,HD600,Icon Audio HP8 RCM DIY Moth

  3. #153
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeyb View Post
    I think you're in the same boat as myself equipment wise, it's good but something is missing, it's doing my head in too, so much so that I've thought about selling it all off and starting again


    Having said that keep me in mind if you want rid of the Cadenza
    yes mate,i cant deny that at times i thought about selling the lot and going with cd,thankfully i didnt make any rash decisions.
    the cadenza went back to hifi corner for a refund.
    the decca is singing away waiting for the zeta to arrive.
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    John Wood KT88 Amp.
    Paradise Phono Stage
    Sony TTS-8000 Turntable.
    PMAT-1010 MK6 Tonearm.
    Ortofon Cadenza Bronze
    Sony X555ES Cd Player
    Yamaha NS1000m Speakers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chivas View Post

    PS. My system has changed quite a bit from the one listed in my signature, but I'm unable to find the "edit" button to update it for some reason
    go into 'Settings' on the red menu bar at the top of the page, on the left hand side is a whole list of options, click on 'Edit Signature'.
    Current Lash Up:

    TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > JM Labs Focal Electra 926.

  5. #155
    Join Date: Mar 2014

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie123 View Post
    yes mate,i cant deny that at times i thought about selling the lot and going with cd,thankfully i didnt make any rash decisions.
    the cadenza went back to hifi corner for a refund.
    the decca is singing away waiting for the zeta to arrive.
    I've now got another Zyx R100, low output one this time and it's sounding brilliant. I might even sell my Decca just to add some funds back into the pot.

    Firebottle has offered to upgrade my Vivant even further as he says his latest tweak makes it even better.

    So that'll be sent off this week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeyb View Post
    I've now got another Zyx R100, low output one this time and it's sounding brilliant. I might even sell my Decca just to add some funds back into the pot.

    Firebottle has offered to upgrade my Vivant even further as he says his latest tweak makes it even better.

    So that'll be sent off this week.
    Alan runs a ZYX R100 too.

    (as do I and an R100 H 02, excellent MC's )
    It is impossible for anything digital to sound analogue, because it isn't analogue!

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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    Alan runs a ZYX R100 too.

    (as do I and an R100 H 02, excellent MC's )
    I know, I sold that one to Alan right after I bought the Zyx Fuji, but that turned out to be faulty so I regretted selling it. All sorted now though

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeyb View Post
    I've now got another Zyx R100, low output one this time and it's sounding brilliant. I might even sell my Decca just to add some funds back into the pot.

    Firebottle has offered to upgrade my Vivant even further as he says his latest tweak makes it even better.

    So that'll be sent off this week.
    The upgrade is significant. You will be pleased. I heard the mods Alan made to his last week and it was not subtle. The improvement focusses on the MC signal amplification.

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  9. #159
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    Jamie,

    I'm pleased that you're back in the Decca fold.

    Charlie
    R2R: Studer A820 1/2 inch 2 track; Otari MTR-12 1/4 inch 2 track; Sony APR 5003; Sony APR 5002; Studer A807/II. Vinyl: Platine Verdier Allaerts MC1B/Schroeder Reference & Model 2 Decca C4E/Hadcock 228 TRON Seven Reference phono. Keith Monks MkII RCM Other analogue source: Nakamichi Dragon with ANT4066 mods. Amplification: TRON Meteor preamp TRON Voyager 20B SET power. Speakers: Avantgarde Duo. Digital: computing at last with Prism Sound Lyra 2 A2D converter

  10. #160
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    Well I bought Jamie's Decca and after setting it up in my stax arm, which was fine with a super gold and some putty, I had a disappointing afternoon. Did a basic set up and had it tracking at 1.5grams, very thin and slightly harsh sound with no bass and worse still, was vocals were difficult to hear and fading as the track played. The whole sound was like an echo. I gave up and put the Shure ultra back and all was wonderful. Going to need some help. I met a guy yesterday who is very experienced with decca's and he suggested blue tak blobs until the best sound was found, then weigh it and replace with lead. Well I couldn't even start to think about blue tak as their wasn't anywhere to start. Cart and headshell weighs just over 25 grams, I have an extra counterweight that I fitted but there is room for adjustment if the headshell needs more mass. Any thoughts?
    Bakoon 13r Denon DP80 Stax UA-70 Shure Ultra 500 in a Martin Bastin body with jico stylus, project ds2 digital Rullit aero 8 field coils in tqwt speakers

    Office system, DIY CSS fullrange speakers with aurum cantus G2 ribbons yulong dac Sony STR6055 receiver Jvc QL-A51 direct drive turntable, Leema sub. JVC Z4S cart is in the house

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