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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    . Tbh much of the peace in europe has been due to the closer financial and travel links due to the common market as much as anything. .
    No I disagree with that although it certainly hasn't hurt. People forget that after WW2 there were 200,000 US troops stationed in Europe, bit of an additional problem if you fancied yourself as the next Napoleon or Hitler. WW2 changed the whole European perspective entirely. Plus UK and the French had nukes by the 1950s. There is not really much point in starting a war with a country that can just nuke your cities if they start losing the conventional battle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haselsh1 View Post
    Apparently though the two nuclear bombs dropped at the end of WWII were actually an experiment by the USA to determine which was more destructive, uranium or plutonium.

    Fact or fiction...? It's what I have been taught over the years.
    I think I recall reading that the two bombs were of different designs. They certainly looked very different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    Seriously? He's completely loony tunes. Didn't he order every man in Korea to have their hair cut in the same style as his? If that's sane I don't want to see what crazy looks like.

    Doesn't mean he will sign his own death warrant by starting a war, though. If he did it would all be over quite rapidly.
    And the fall out would effect the world. Korea gone, Japan damaged, China damaged. America effected directly, only the 'dear nut job' knows how far his missiles will fly.

    I hope both of these nut jobs, trump and the dear little nut job, stop this pissing contest immediately - no one will win and all of us will pay the price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    I think I recall reading that the two bombs were of different designs. They certainly looked very different.
    delete that. think im being an idiot lol.........they were different in that the first one was uranium and the second plutonium. Little boy was the mk 2 and mk3 was fat man on Nagasaki. It was bigger as it was an implosion device
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalek Supreme D L View Post
    And the fall out would effect the world. Korea gone, Japan damaged, China damaged. America effected directly, only the 'dear nut job' knows how far his missiles will fly.

    I hope both of these nut jobs, trump and the dear little nut job, stop this pissing contest immediately - no one will win and all of us will pay the price.
    Assuming NK has nukes which is highly unlikely. Even if they did they would only be tactical weapons and the only available form of delivery would be via artillery. So not good for South Korea but nothing like enough to create radiation issues of a global nature. In a conventional battle NK wouldn't last any longer than Saddam's Iraq.
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    Technically the Korean war is not over,America carpet bombed North Korean cities and infrastructure -and kept doing it over and over ,killing hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians.North Korea looks over the dmz and sees American military stationed ready to do the same again and the fact that America was ready to use A bombs on the North and deployed them on South Korean soil, and one wonders why the North want nuclear weapons of their own! p.s what would America say if N.K flew spy planes and bombers over and close to the usa .A few points to think of from the opposite perspective .Mick
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    Assuming NK has nukes which is highly unlikely. Even if they did they would only be tactical weapons and the only available form of delivery would be via artillery. So not good for South Korea but nothing like enough to create radiation issues of a global nature. In a conventional battle NK wouldn't last any longer than Saddam's Iraq.
    its thought they have managed to make a bomb small enough to fit into their missile so yes, they could kick off a ww3 scenario. Whether the US's defences could stop it is debatable as their issiles dont have a good track record so far. Interestingly the Israeli's system seems to be much more reliable; Necessity is the mother of invention. it will likely be fairly dirty as well compared to modern US/Russian ones.

    fission, ie Atom bombs are pretty radioactive at best of times. and you need one for a Hydrogen or fusion bomb. If we ever manage to get a purely fusion h bomb then radiation will be 0. but its not currently possible
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    Thread Crap ALERT:

    All the posts on here have correctly spelled NUCLEAR when referring to nuclear weapons. Why is that so may in the media refer to them as NUCULAR weapons!!!!!
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    . There is not really much point in starting a war with a country that can just nuke your cities if they start losing the conventional battle.[/QUOTE].

    I suppose the real worry is if you get a world leader or just a nutter with the attitude of Islamic state, they seem happy to move on to the next world, well they're happy for their numpties to...
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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    yup they helped keep the us and ruskies from eating each other. Tbh much of the peace in europe has been due to the closer financial and travel links due to the common market as much as anything. Its a shame its being undermined by both ends of the spectrum.
    The reason for only a few decent, wise nations having nukes was to stop them being used in haste. Places like NK and Iran are not really to be trusted imo.
    Indeed the fine thing which is the EU has helped enormously with European peace and stability, as Churchill expected it to.

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