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  1. #41
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    Tonights Update - Pt XI - A little nearer to the finish.

    I've managed to mop up a few little jobs over the last few days. The platter has been finished and it looks lovely even if I do say so myself.


    Just a couple of pictures showing the scuffs and damage to the platter
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    And now a couple of pictures showing how the deck looks with platter and naked! I do rather like the grey and white combo.

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    The motor springs have now been properly dressed. I have removed the rust, prepped with primer and sprayed them black and add some laquer to project against further bouts of rusting. The three motor nuts which held the springs in place where also corroded so these have been sanded down and repainted in the post office red colour (more pics later). I've started work on the motor and have just started stripping away excess wires and resolder some dry joints. That's tomorrows work and if I can get the motor spinning tomorrow I'll be happy as it's a big milestone in this decks rebirth.

    As ever stay tuned!
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    Looking good Andy . I hope the motor runs smoothly first time of trying mate . Did you set up some sort of jig to bolt the motor to when working on it and testing .
    Any idea what caused the scuffs on the platter . I imagine something like that would require very specialized paint .
    Have you been able to source / repair the parts OK ?
    Regards
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    Quote Originally Posted by brian2957 View Post
    Looking good Andy . I hope the motor runs smoothly first time of trying mate . Did you set up some sort of jig to bolt the motor to when working on it and testing .
    Any idea what caused the scuffs on the platter . I imagine something like that would require very specialized paint .
    Have you been able to source / repair the parts OK ?
    The motor is being tested over this week, I'm sure I'll have some fun! It will still need a complete strip and spindle repair. I dont have a jig, just a flat surface and that's all that's needed really. I have no idea where the scuffs came from it looks like its been through the wars!! The paint was nothing special, I just did the usual of stripping, prepping, spray painting and then laquer to protect. The parts are extremely rare so lateral thinking is usually your best friend. I've got a pretty bomb proof way of getting the lettering onto the brushed aluminum and I've found a business just down the road that does metal laser cutting so if I may treat myself and get that job externally. I have heard nothing from the 3D printing company so I have to chase them but that's part of the fun of the resto!!! The project feels like it's coming to an end because I can see solutions for most of the problems but we still have some time before it's truly finished. I can't wait to get this one finshed so I can start experimenting with the '75
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    Interesting thread, Andy, and good work so far!

    I rate the G99 highly, having heard one belonging to Oldius, which was superb and sonically possessed real vim and vigour. No shortage of detail either. The bass had real 'balls' too, all of which I loved.

    As ever, with these types of 'motor units', the final sound one obtains is largely down to the plinth chosen and how well all the constituent parts work together symbiotically, especially in respect of the tonearm and cartridge chosen.

    Have you had some thoughts about any of that?

    Marco.
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    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

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    I did love my G99. It was fitted into a slate plinth with a new bearing and a massive clamping system. I thought it at least the equal to my 401.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Interesting thread, Andy, and good work so far!

    I rate the G99 highly, having heard one belonging to Oldius, which was superb and sonically possessed real vim and vigour. No shortage of detail either. The bass had real 'balls' too, all of which I loved.

    As ever, with these types of 'motor units', the final sound one obtains is largely down to the plinth chosen and how well all the constituent parts work together symbiotically, especially in respect of the tonearm and cartridge chosen.

    Have you had some thoughts about any of that?

    Marco.
    Never really been a big fan of slate. It will probably be a simple birch ply jobbie. This one is going in the collection and may occasionally get used.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldius View Post
    I did love my G99. It was fitted into a slate plinth with a new bearing and a massive clamping system. I thought it at least the equal to my 401.
    One of the best T/Ts I've heard, Geoff - and I'm fussy! Did you get to hear it pre and post bearing and clamping system? If so, how much better was it afterwards?

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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    Quote Originally Posted by REXTON View Post
    Never really been a big fan of slate. It will probably be a simple birch ply jobbie. This one is going in the collection and may occasionally get used.
    I like slate, in the right applications. But there's something about certain woods, done well, that for me sounds more musical. I don't really 'get' the collecting thing on something that has a mechanical primary function [I'm not a hi-fi hoarder], but enjoy!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    I like slate, in the right applications. But there's something about certain woods, done well, that for me sounds more musical. I don't really 'get' the collecting thing on something that has a mechanical primary function [I'm not a hi-fi hoarder], but enjoy!

    Marco.
    I think you are quite right about certain woods and I have experimented extensively. I use ebony on the 1210 which and I have experimented widely with Bamboo both brought slightly different things out of the system. The ebony seemed to etch out a little more detal from the 1210 whilst the bamboo (yes its a grass) seemed to work very well as an isolation plinth bringing many subtle but worthwhile improvements to my systems. I don't hoard systems as such. I have two main decks the 1210 and the 301. Both decks are used on a very regular basis and do different things. It's no secret the 301 is used as my Jazz workhorse in my valve system whilst the 1210 plays everything else. My venture into Lenco's has been both fun and education and the lessons learned will at some point into the future go into improving the 1210 and 301. The Lenco 75 I own is great for experimentation and is used on a daily basis. The Goldring 99 was just one of those decks I always wanted to try.
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    Tonights update - Part XII - Bugger!

    Well the motor is knackered! It's just plain plum buggered! So, a rather big setback but Lenco motor's are quite commonly sold and I have a spare so things arn't that bad. It now means that I've come to a halt so far until I find some time to get the other motor stripped and rebuilt. Never mind, we shall just have to be patient!
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