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    Quote Originally Posted by anthonyTD View Post
    Come on Jez, get this thread started, I need cheering up!
    Seriously,I am sure It will be entertaining, as well as [posibly] enlightning to some!
    I'm afraid that if there is any link between my post which you quoted and your reply then it's lost on me..... I can only assume you mean the hi fi mythbusting thread? I do have actual work to do don't yer know It will happen don't ye worry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    No you're not. I agree that if someone enjoys their system that is all that matters. But you can have a very coloured system that is not 'high fidelity' in the strict sense of the term but is still pleasing to listen to and you can have a nasty hard, harsh, distorted mess that clearly isn't.
    To me hi-fi is about, to quote Quad "the closest approach to the original sound". Anything else is not hi-fi. An individual with strange tastes in sound may get enjoyment out of a bizarre sounding system but it's still a crap system and very definitely not hi-fi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkless Electronics View Post
    To me hi-fi is about, to quote Quad "the closest approach to the original sound". Anything else is not hi-fi. An individual with strange tastes in sound may get enjoyment out of a bizarre sounding system but it's still a crap system and very definitely not hi-fi.
    And strictly speaking you are right. but people using SETs and horns don't like to be told it isn't 'proper hi-fi', and understandably so, so best not to go there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    And strictly speaking you are right. but people using SETs and horns don't like to be told it isn't 'proper hi-fi', and understandably so, so best not to go there.
    Whilst I wasn't referring to any specific type of system, the truth should not be held back on just to save someone's feelings is my view, not in this context anyway.
    A hi fi should not IMHO be tailored to sound "enjoyable" but should aim to recreate the sound of real music. If one cannot enjoy the sound of a live unamplified string quartet without thinking "yuk... that sounds far too toppy... I'd prefer this on my hi fi with the treble turned right down and the loudness button in" then I feel sorry for them... but would not condone pandering to such a person!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkless Electronics View Post
    Whilst I wasn't referring to any specific type of system, the truth should not be held back on just to save someone's feelings is my view, not in this context anyway.
    A hi fi should not IMHO be tailored to sound "enjoyable" but should aim to recreate the sound of real music. If one cannot enjoy the sound of a live unamplified string quartet without thinking "yuk... that sounds far too toppy... I'd prefer this on my hi fi with the treble turned right down and the loudness button in" then I feel sorry for them... but would not condone pandering to such a person!
    I'm all in favour of concentrating on getting noise and distortion as low as possible and letting the recording speak for itself. But people don't trust recordings because they have heard too many coloured systems that did amazing things with some recordings and made others unlistenable At least that was where I was at before adopting a more 'objective' approach.

    But I think that we should accept that in general the meaning of the phrase 'hi-fi system' has evolved over the years, as language quite legitimately does.
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    I think a lot of people have suffered from the 'loudness wars' where there has been massive compression in music and even worse deliberate clipping has been added. So in turn many people have become 'tuned' to the idea that 'great' music is compressed/clipped so I'm not surprised when they spend big bucks and chase after such sound.

    I've lost count of the times I walked into a room at a hifi show and walked straight out. Lovely expensive noise. How some folks can mangle a perfectly good track is astonishing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwardlon View Post
    I think a lot of people have suffered from the 'loudness wars' where there has been massive compression in music and even worse deliberate clipping has been added. So in turn many people have become 'tuned' to the idea that 'great' music is compressed/clipped so I'm not surprised when they spend big bucks and chase after such sound.

    I've lost count of the times I walked into a room at a hifi show and walked straight out. Lovely expensive noise. How some folks can mangle a perfectly good track is astonishing.
    I know. The pursuit of detail at the expense of a pleasurable sound is partly to blame. Also I think some people who have worked full time in the industry for many years get to a point where they can't see the wood for the trees.
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    Well I think hifi should be enjoyable. Period And if it's not why do it
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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    Well I think hifi should be enjoyable. Period And if it's not why do it
    The music itself should be enjoyable rather than the sound of a given hi-fi IMHO. To that end, the hi-fi should be, as far as possible, an open window into the music itself... not a stained glass window adding extra colours etc....
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    well as I say, not everyone hears things the same way. what you think is enjoyable another ray think flat and lifeless etc. My whole point is that if someone prefers his system, even if it gives others less than pleasure, then that should be fine by everyone else and shouldnt be slammed for it. Obviously thats not going to happen here so its getting circular.
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