Now that we've sorted that one, are we all shutting up shop and going home?
Now that we've sorted that one, are we all shutting up shop and going home?
Chris
Common sense isn't anymore!
Location: Leeds
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I'm Dave.
My experience of pretty much all recordings is that they are quite compressed and tamed compared to the real thing. Like aTD says "it's a big fat lie". Actually I would say it's a white lie. It's there to make the sound more palateable.
I have a couple of "raw" recordings and although they are very realistic, they are just too much to listen to at home. Most recording and mastering engineers are doing us a big favour with their white lies!
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I'm Shaun.
OMG... It must be the second coming of Christ, I agree entirely
My music of choice is entirely contrived and has to always go through an amplification system even when 'live' so there is no real accuracy involved. My only requirement for MY system is that I bloody love the way it makes my choice of music sound. It sounds bloody sublime at the moment and I am really enjoying it and if I were to be totally honest, I don't give a flying fuck whether it is accurate or not. It truly does not matter to me.
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Guitar amps are deliberately designed to be coloured and distorted in order to impart a particular tone or sound to them so comparison with hi fi amps is meaningless.... In the case you mention it is deliberately making the PSU crap to different extents by fitting rectifiers with different series resistance.....
In mainly non classical music a recording engineer will often pick equipment with known colourations etc to get the desired sound as part of the artistic process.
In classical and similar music much less processing is generally used and a less coloured sound is usually the intention.
In either case I don't want my hi fi making further changes to the sound which were not present or intended in the recording
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Ahh but is it meaningless,,, the two rectifiers in question were well up to supplying the current needed by the amplifier, so it was not due to the fact the amps power supply was sagging, it was just a diffrent portrayal of the perceived frequency range of the amp that was observed.
"Today scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality"
Nikola Tesla
Its now a conspiracy theory to believe that the Immune system is capable of doing the job it was designed to do.
A fish is only as healthy as the water its swimming in ! [Dr Robert Young]
www.tubedistinctions.co.uk
Matthew 5:10
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Cables- free interconnects that come with CD players, mains leads from B&Q, dead kettles etc, extension leads from Tesco
"Today scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality"
Nikola Tesla
Its now a conspiracy theory to believe that the Immune system is capable of doing the job it was designed to do.
A fish is only as healthy as the water its swimming in ! [Dr Robert Young]
www.tubedistinctions.co.uk
Matthew 5:10
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ReVox PR99, Studer B62, Ferrograph Series 7, Tandberg TCD440, Hitachi FT-5500MkI, also FT-5500MkII
Digital: Yamaha CDR-HD1500 (Digital Swiss army knife-CD recorder, player, hard drive, DAC and ADC in one), PC files via 24/96 sound card and SPDIF, modded Philips CD850, modded Philips CD104, modded DPA Little Bit DAC. Sennheiser HD580 cans with Arkless Headphone amp.
Cables- free interconnects that come with CD players, mains leads from B&Q, dead kettles etc, extension leads from Tesco
You're right, and I agree, although I may not necessarily like the effect. However, in order to judge things properly, I'd need to hear the 'untamed' thing compared with the 'tamed' version, in order to decide which I preferred. Ultimately, however, I'm of the mindset that I prefer things 'fucked about with' the least.
Not for me, as long as said "raw" recordings are produced with the goal of achieving the highest fidelity. Those types of recordings really show off what a good system can do - and I love it!I have a couple of "raw" recordings and although they are very realistic, they are just too much to listen to at home. Most recording and mastering engineers are doing us a big favour with their white lies!
When I say "raw" I don't mean thin and hard, or distorted - I simply mean messed about with the least, much in the way recordings used to be produced in the 50s and early 60s, with valve microphones/recording desks and minimal 'bumph' in the way of the signal path.
In that respect, some of the best recordings I own are of live music from that era (on vinyl), which sound "raw", but at the same time, incredibly detailed and dynamic
Most recordings these days sound 'artificially processed', and somewhat 'soft' in comparison, thus lack the sheer unadulterated realism of the best examples from said 'golden era'. That's what my ears tell me anyway!
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