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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    Sensitivity is 99dB. So maybe not need as much power as you might think.
    What impedance though?
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    No matter how good, this is ultimately speaker drive units, probably bought in from the likes of Seas etc in a collection of boxes and £1000,000 for the full system is obscene IMHO....
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    Yeah, after the appearance and heavy non-essential engineering is taken away, they're still moderately priced drive units 'in a complex box.'

    I get more interested in the big pro ATC's, PMC's, Questeds and so on, which cost well under £50k if fully amplified I believe...
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    I'm afraid this is just another prime example of Hi-Fi rip-off!

    Those hideous looking speakers, probably cost just a couple grand to make!

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    Well that didn't take long. I wonder how many keyboard warriors have actually heard a pair of Wilsons, even the cheaper ones. As for drivers, speculation is merely opinion unless you all have evidence? Of course, if it were only a few grand worth, actions speak louder...
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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    What impedance though?
    Don't know couldn't find any proper specs or measurements.

    As regard the price there is no way you could build these for just 'a couple of thousand.' Absurd. As for drive units if the drive unit can do what you need it to do it doesn't matter how inexpensive it is. One advantage of a multi driver array over the single driver or 2 way is that you are not asking as much from each individual driver. So they don't need to be super-special and expensive. You only need that if you want a driver that can cover a wide bandwidth without breaking up too much. In any case I think at least some of the drive units were developed specially for this application. Hard to find out exactly since the reviews are all full of the usual flim-flam instead of useful facts and data.
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    The specs matter little really. I doubt many of us are likely to be in the market for these.
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    Main system: MMs/ADCs/Low output MC's/One rare Japanese SUT/One scarce British phono stage/various tonearms/hefty Japanese DD TT and hefty Japanese BD TT and small British BD TT. 4 CD players/2 jitter buster/2 DACs/Valve buffer. TVC stepped attenuator or valve pre-amp or solid state pre-amp. Current dumping power-amp or either of two Class A SS power-amp or Class A EL34 valve monos or big Japanese (part Class A) integrated. Big dual concentric speakers/Smaller dual concentric speakers/Two way British compacts and full range speakers, amongst others. And too much more to list!

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    You can be interested in something even if you will never have the means to buy it. Or even think about buying it.
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    I'm sure £100K could just about be justified but 10 X that?
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    for me something that big has to look nice as well and for that money they should,i like the line,'the speakers just disappeared' lol
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