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    Probably not Jez, and not a challenge to you with your skills either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkless Electronics View Post
    I'd consider designing a "paradise on the cheap" if there was the demand... but there isn't....
    There probably is a demand as Si has ended up building 20+ of the 'full fat' Paradises. However, you would need one fully built and tarted up to punt round potential customers and pundits. Then you need some half eloquent reviews - none of this, 'yeah I bought one and it's great' rubbish, or 'I know nothing about audio but I compared it to my transistor radio and it blew me away'. Then you need to consider customers from all over the country and abroad and wait for some of them to post enthusiastically about it - and only then will there be an actual demand .

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    Quote Originally Posted by YNWaN View Post
    There probably is a demand as Si has ended up building 20+ of the 'full fat' Paradises. However, you would need one fully built and tarted up to punt round potential customers and pundits. Then you need some half eloquent reviews - none of this, 'yeah I bought one and it's great' rubbish, or 'I know nothing about audio but I compared it to my transistor radio and it blew me away'. Then you need to consider customers from all over the country and abroad and wait for some of them to post enthusiastically about it - and only then will there be an actual demand .
    they are all different as well so any review would be pointless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YNWaN View Post
    There probably is a demand as Si has ended up building 20+ of the 'full fat' Paradises. However, you would need one fully built and tarted up to punt round potential customers and pundits. Then you need some half eloquent reviews - none of this, 'yeah I bought one and it's great' rubbish, or 'I know nothing about audio but I compared it to my transistor radio and it blew me away'. Then you need to consider customers from all over the country and abroad and wait for some of them to post enthusiastically about it - and only then will there be an actual demand .
    All of which is precisely the reason I won't be doing anything about it! I detest all the marketing, advertising, public relations, sycophancy, "back scratching" etc part of the business. If people were to come to me begging for such a thing I'd do it but if I've got to "create the demand" I just ain't interested...

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    'If people come to you begging' - you have more chance of winning the lottery. How do you think demand happens? It isn't just some spontaneous force of nature!

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    Quote Originally Posted by YNWaN View Post
    'If people come to you begging' - you have more chance of winning the lottery. How do you think demand happens? It isn't just some spontaneous force of nature!
    I do things differently. If so many people are so damn keen to have one of these phono stages then they'll come to me. Not the other way round. If that results in zero sales and zero interest then so be it. Simples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkless Electronics View Post
    I do things differently. If so many people are so damn keen to have one of these phono stages then they'll come to me. Not the other way round. If that results in zero sales and zero interest then so be it. Simples.
    Looks like it would be very limited sales wise with that approach..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkless Electronics View Post
    I do things differently. If so many people are so damn keen to have one of these phono stages then they'll come to me. Not the other way round. If that results in zero sales and zero interest then so be it. Simples.
    Good luck with that then.
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    😂😂😂 you kill me Jez.

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    FFS guys I have no particular wish to make Paradise clones or even cheaper versions... My point was that if lots of people REALLY want one I could be interested in going for it but I'm not bothered one way or the other so I ain't going out looking for this business.. either it comes to me or it doesn't happen and I'm fine either way....

    Forget I ever said I could make them if it suits you folks...

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