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    Default Cheap speaker cable, worth minor upgrade?

    I bought some cheap and cheerful Richer Sounds branded 4mm shotgun copper cable about 10 years ago and have never considered upgrading... Until now.

    Thing is, I am not looking to spend a great deal and so am wondering if there is any point. As I understand it, all copper is pretty much equal?

    How rubbish is RS speaker cable? Would something like Van Damme blue offer any noticeable sonic improvement? Or is it just different branding on an essentially identical product?

    Unless anyone has a strong view that modest investment will yield results, I'll probably keep as is.

    Cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LC1979 View Post
    I bought some cheap and cheerful Richer Sounds branded 4mm shotgun copper cable about 10 years ago and have never considered upgrading... Until now.

    Thing is, I am not looking to spend a great deal and so am wondering if there is any point. As I understand it, all copper is pretty much equal?

    How rubbish is RS speaker cable? Would something like Van Damme blue offer any noticeable sonic improvement? Or is it just different branding on an essentially identical product?

    Unless anyone has a strong view that modest investment will yield results, I'll probably keep as is.

    Cheers!
    I use this should be quite an improvement for little outlay, I buy bare cable and put plugs on

    https://www.audiovisualonline.co.uk/...speaker-cable/

    All copper is not equal, cables definitely make a difference.

    The above is silver coated copper IIRC. A steal at this price.

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    Very good. I use this too

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    That does look good, thanks very much for the recommendation both.

    Are plugs simply for convenience, or do they contribute to SQ at all?

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    Both... cable that is well terminated in a plug will oxidize less plus a good even connection.
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    Ok, makes sense, thanks.

    At that price it's probably worth a punt if only to test to see if I can perceive a difference. If not I'll just move them on...

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    Some systems are more open to improved cabling. Much depends on various factors and one cable may be terrible in one system and excellent in another. Standard Van dammme blue is fine for many systems that dont suck current. They do a thicker one too. Not sure which one we are talking about tbh but both are good. I used to have a couple of runs of it. Think i sold it a while ago, but may still have 1 run somewhere. I make my own now.
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    Always fancied 4mm VD blue when i found out they used it at abbey road.

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    Looking at a cross section of the fisual cable it seems that, for quite a bulky cable, it is all plastic filler and insulation and very little metal!

    My understanding was that thickness of your cable is crucial (ooh er)?

    Still tempted to go for some 4mm VD blue. No heavy current in my system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    I make my own now.
    Care to share your DIY recipe?!

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