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    Quote Originally Posted by ff1d1l View Post
    And imaging was such that the dog barking on the Waters Amused to Death was unambiguously behind the listener,
    How is that achieved? Would it it have been mixed to be behind the listener? I suppose it uses the the reflection off walls, which would be different in any room, I just cannot get my head around how it is achieved. Is it common with super expensive kit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RMutt View Post
    Is it common with super expensive kit?
    No.

    And you can't have non-reflected sounds coming from behind unless there is a source for them behind you.
    It is impossible for anything digital to sound analogue, because it isn't analogue!

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    Mixed with q sound I believe - nontheless, thats what it did.
    Seems I'm not the only one either

    https://forum.audiogon.com/discussio...nd-avalon-opus

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    There's a hint in that link. It's probably a phase effect.
    It is impossible for anything digital to sound analogue, because it isn't analogue!

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    Best Speakers I've ever heard were my Sonus Faber Guarneris (that I stupidly sold) driven by Border Patrol valve amp....totally incredible quality, lifelike imaging and palpable soundstage.
    I've been chasing that sound for years. Nearest I've got is Horning Agathon Ultimates driven by very expensive valves...I'm not sure how such diminutive speakers as the Guarneris can sound better than the two cupboards I've got sitting in my lounge (the Agathons).
    Franco Serblin is a genius!

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    Thanks Nial. I will have a look through the albums produced in q sound. I might get one or two and experiment.

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    Clive, thanks for sharing your thoughts on the Kiss speaker system. I have heard them as well, and think they are a very fantastic sounding speaker too. And the finish etc. on them is as should be, very nice as well.

    My mind is often boggled when I read some comments here and elsewhere on the looks of kit. I realize taste/sound differs extremely at times between folks, but I often see some bias-or appears that way, almost like if something looks nice and streamlined or as a piece of art, it can't be any good, or it is classified as "lifestyle", which we know cannot be good either-wrong!

    It is almost like for anything to be worth a shite, it has to be boring and look like every other freaking box made in the last umpteen years! Do we really have to live with crap looking products in order for it to be considered worthy? Ugh.....
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    couple of vids re the kiss . vienna certainly have some keen owners

    https://youtu.be/i_yjho3C_Qo

    https://youtu.be/RJP0UjCTmeg

    https://youtu.be/kaVuWZNwf4w

    must get to hear them again sometime
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    seems audiofreaks is only distributor which is why perhaps not seen so much at UK shows
    ou might slip, you might slide, you might
    Stumble and fall by the road side
    But don't you ever let nobody drag your spirit down
    Remember you're walking up to heaven

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    Learn from everyone, that's what life is for
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