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Thread: Sibilance in general -- what is the most likely cause?

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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    Care to explain?
    Dirt wil add noise but no distortion. Sibilance is a distortion of a recorded sound either at the recording take or in the process of the "carving" of the master template or in the "plastic" material used to press the record. And off course, as said before by a faulty set-up of your cartridge and/or tonearm.
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    Sibilance can be caused by mistracking stylus or too little VTF. Stylus profile can also be an issue. Occasionally recordings can be prone to sibilance if vocals are recorded poorly.
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    Sorry to be a late comer to this thread, but I've just joined.
    Personal experience has shown that VTA and correct bias are particularly important to reducing/eliminating sibilance. Of course the record deck must be perfectly level too. Having said this, there is absolutely no guarantee that every cartridge, even if brand new well set-up, would ever be able to track sibilance well. Relevant points are the tip mass of the stylus, cantilever compliance and tip profile (Shibata tips are very good at tracking high frequencies). As has already been mentioned, cartridge/arm mass compatibility is very important too. If the cartridge isn't brilliant at tracking sibilance, it doesn't mean it's a bad cartridge – it's just not one of it strengths.
    Some records are cut with too much extreme HF making sibilance virtually untrackable by anything – especially if the record itself is a fraction off centre (which they often are), and the arm is swinging slightly.The cutting engineer should filter off extreme quantities of HF at the time of mastering to ensure the record can be played cleanly on the majority of decks.This is especially so at the end of side when the stylus is traveling at its slowest making tracking HF more difficult.
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    Sibilance is not just restricted to a vinyl source.
    Don't think the OP has been back to say whether it is just on his TT.
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    Any TT based sibilance I've had and subsequently cured has always been down to either VTA (usually needs to be more 'tail down') or VTF (usually needs to be the odd 0.1 or 0.2 gm heavier).
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    Quote Originally Posted by tlscapital View Post
    Sibilance is a distortion of a recorded sound
    No it's not.
    Sibilance occurs in real life.
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    I fear not my friend...... nothing to to do with real life !

    It's to do with set up

    VTA is really important, as is is all other crucial adjustments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Boyse6748 View Post
    I fear not my friend...... nothing to to do with real life !

    It's to do with set up

    VTA is really important, as is is all other crucial adjustments.


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    Bollocks!
    I heard sibilance just the other day.
    Funnily enough it was my friend, saying the word "sibilance", and I noticed that it was, funnily enough, very sibilant.
    It's got fuck all to do with anything else.

    It's often picked up by the microphone when summat's being recorded ....
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    Poor set up or other issues could introduce it when it is not there on the recording though? Obviously the effect is not happening for the same reason but it might be hard for a listener to distinguish between the two.
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