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    Quote Originally Posted by Beobloke View Post
    As you've found really. The treble was harsh and gritty, and the midrange forward and shouty. Even the bass, which sounded promisingly big, smooth and solid without the tweeters turned into a one-note, boxy mess when they were fitted!

    I did briefly consider tweaking them but I'd just bought a pair of B&O Beovox 5000s and so felt I only really needed one pair of old, ugly teak speakers in the house. Plus, the B&Os are quite nice!
    A friend of mine who had both Magnum K's and Magister's, bought new at the time, thought they were bloody awful for the same reasons hence I've been surprised to see them making a resurgence of late.... I think in some ways the lure of the vintage or retro blinds people to areas of genuine progress maybe...
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    I just passed on a tidy pair of Magnum K's on ebay. They went for 21. Just down the road from me too. I was tempted though!
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    Main system: MMs/ADCs/Low output MC's/One rare Japanese SUT/One scarce British phono stage/various tonearms/hefty Japanese DD TT and hefty Japanese BD TT and small British BD TT. 4 CD players/2 jitter buster/2 DACs/Valve buffer. TVC stepped attenuator or valve pre-amp or solid state pre-amp. Current dumping power-amp or either of two Class A SS power-amp or Class A EL34 valve monos or big Japanese (part Class A) integrated. Big dual concentric speakers/Smaller dual concentric speakers/Two way British compacts and full range speakers, amongst others. And too much more to list!

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    Your initial reaction is very similar to mine it would seem. I am glad I persevered though as they now sound much better. The thing I would say is that the bass is now like you thought it had the potential to be. The best way I can describe it is nuanced, in fact just the opposite of a one note thump. You cannot describe it as punchy but it is musical and tight. I've just had an email to say my pots and resistors are on their way, so with a bit of luck, this weekend I'll see if I can stop the higher frequencies getting to the bass driver. Sorry I was just writing a response to Adam and two posts got in between.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkless Electronics View Post
    A friend of mine who had both Magnum K's and Magister's, bought new at the time, thought they were bloody awful for the same reasons hence I've been surprised to see them making a resurgence of late.... I think in some ways the lure of the vintage or retro blinds people to areas of genuine progress maybe...
    I'm not sure of the lure of vintage, maybe. But most of the rest of my stuff is pretty up to date and I'm a mainly digital listener. I was attracted to a sealed enclosure with a large driver making the bass. I haven't listened to a huge amount of speakers but these sound good to me now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RMutt View Post
    I'm not sure of the lure of vintage, maybe. But most of the rest of my stuff is pretty up to date and I'm a mainly digital listener. I was attracted to a sealed enclosure with a large driver making the bass. I haven't listened to a huge amount of speakers but these sound good to me now.
    You could try Heybrook HB3's.... "only" 10" woofer though...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkless Electronics View Post
    A friend of mine who had both Magnum K's and Magister's, bought new at the time, thought they were bloody awful for the same reasons hence I've been surprised to see them making a resurgence of late.... I think in some ways the lure of the vintage or retro blinds people to areas of genuine progress maybe...
    Possibly. I think there's also the 'umbrella effect' where people read about a company's good models and assume that everything the company made was superb.

    Goodmans made some very fine loudspeakers, of that there can be no doubt, but they also made a few stinkers!
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    Thanks Jez, I'll put them on my 'possibles' list! Actually something you said earlier I found interesting. The idea of being blind to progress. Speakers have huge range of solutions to a problem. Some designs are so simple, a box and a driver, and others employ huge amounts of technology and research evolution. There are supporters of both but you have to wonder about the progress made when so many favour the simple approach. Harbeth still produce relatively simple and yet well regarded speakers and compete against companies like B and W who use much more technology in their designs.

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    see post number 3 in this thread... I think what was being indicated is with a bit of fettling and replacement mids & tweeters the real potential of those 'big Ugly Boxes' can be unleashed.
    I have personally experienced David Coe's Magisters and I can tell you now they were stunningly good.
    They surpassed a seriously good pair of Wilmslow Audio Prestiges in the bass department and made my Kudos Cardea 2s (2500)..feel very tame indeed!
    Yes without work and effort they are poor performers, but in the right hands with a few quid thrown at them a very nice performer is revealed.
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    Have heard / read about the Miles' Magister
    But Not Goodmans

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    Quote Originally Posted by danilo View Post
    Have heard / read about the Miles' Magister
    But Not Goodmans
    No. It's not about flying Danilo.
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    Main system: MMs/ADCs/Low output MC's/One rare Japanese SUT/One scarce British phono stage/various tonearms/hefty Japanese DD TT and hefty Japanese BD TT and small British BD TT. 4 CD players/2 jitter buster/2 DACs/Valve buffer. TVC stepped attenuator or valve pre-amp or solid state pre-amp. Current dumping power-amp or either of two Class A SS power-amp or Class A EL34 valve monos or big Japanese (part Class A) integrated. Big dual concentric speakers/Smaller dual concentric speakers/Two way British compacts and full range speakers, amongst others. And too much more to list!

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