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    A pair of JBL control 1 speakers and a temple audio bantum should just about fit in a shoe box-it would sound very respectable for a portable system. The Bantum works really well on batteries. One of Stans dacs would complement it niceley if you dont fancy the output from your devices headphone socket.

    There is a battery powered t amp thread on here...well worth a mooch!!!

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    I failed to mention that I owned an iconic travel hifi kit that spawned the t-amp movement. I bought it in the Virgin Megastore in LA on an R&R break. It comprised a Fisher Price looking plastic amp about the size of two fag packets (side by side). Powered by aa batteries or an (included) 12v wall wart power supply, the item was the now famous Sonic Unity Tripath Amp. It was partnered by a pair of pyramid shaped folding cardboard speakers (the Soundpax) which when assembled were a little bigger than traffic cones. The inner side of one face of the pyramid had an nxt style resonator affixed which produced a 360 degree soundwave. I had never heard of the tripath chip at that point but the store had set up the combo as a working demo powered by some noname cd walkman. At under $50 the purchase was a no-brainer. I can sense the incredulity of those reading this post when I say that the sound quality was amazing. The amp could fit in a jacket pocket and the speakers folded into their own triangular carrying case around the size of a badminton racket. They were surprisingly robust and travelled with me around the world fitting neatly into the top of a Samsonite shell case. They came to a tragic end though. I returned home to my apartment in Dhaka one evening to find that the air con has malfunctioned and the Soundpax lay in a poole of water, gradually collapsing into a papier mache mush! RIP Soundpax.

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    Whats a shoestrings worth?
    I hooked up my Yamaha NS-1000M's (250) with my Xindak V15, EL34 PP, (150) and a Pioneer PD-D6J SACD (60) while a friend was visiting. We used home cooked cables for speakers and power and some very reasonably priced interconnects.
    Both of us were just baffled, why do we even spend more?

    Same amp is doing service at my nephews, with a couple of Jamo Concert 8's and another find, a Linn Sondek LP12 (Valhalla/Ittok II)
    The Sondek is usually not found so cheaply but i could put in the PinkTriangle Little Pink Thing instead for a complete vinyl playback system for about 500-550.
    (An old Lehmann Audio Black Cube does RIAA duties)

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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    Denon PMA 350SE is better than the Topping TP60.
    It is indeed Geoff I have 2 one in lounge and bedroom the difference with my old Nad amps was like night and day very musical indeed

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    Denon PMA 350SE is better than the Topping TP60.
    And it Should be!
    Given that as Tripath .. Dissolved.. over 11 years ago.
    Any and All tripath chips (which Were surprisingly decent sounding) are Low Grade fakes.. some missing Half of the Tripath dies.
    My audio bits: Thorens / diy phono, CD/dvd player(s), diy pre, F6, Tannoy Golds in my boxes / my xovers, and of course all strung together with basic diy Wires
    Lots of Cd's, yet more audio files, a couple of hundred semi worn Lps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigman80 View Post
    Theres a lot of value in those Class T amps (Topping) 40 I think they are. A decent CD player on a budget like my Denon DCD825 cost me 16 & probably some Mission 780SE 40 and thats a very very good system for less than 100. In fact, I my just do that for my Garage

    Good thread!!!

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    i have a Sony receiver, cassette deck and a pair of audax drivers currently without boxes in my garage and don't actually think about the sound quality when I'm working on something. I have thought I might make some bass reflex boxes for the drivers and maybe combine them with some aurum cantus G2 ribbons I have spare. I understand what people mean when they say they just enjoy the music when they are doing something else with music more in the background
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulf-2007 View Post
    i have a Sony receiver, cassette deck and a pair of audax drivers currently without boxes in my garage and don't actually think about the sound quality when I'm working on something. I have thought I might make some bass reflex boxes for the drivers and maybe combine them with some aurum cantus G2 ribbons I have spare. I understand what people mean when they say they just enjoy the music when they are doing something else with music more in the background
    I have a Technics system in the garage with my old Celestion DL6 speakers. I have electrical flex cable as speaker cable and tbh its great lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigman80 View Post
    I have a Technics system in the garage with my old Celestion DL6 speakers. I have electrical flex cable as speaker cable and tbh its great

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    That's good to hear - one wonders how people managed in the '60s; not being able to spend hundreds of pounds on cables?
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    I was thinking about this and threads like it. Its a very open question in terms of subjectivity and I wonder if its helpful to discuss things in these terms or if it just adds to the fog of confusion.

    So the two key points are what you consider to be High Fidelity and what you consider to be a shoestring budget? Hi fi equipment can cost tens or hundreds of thousands of pounds so what actually is a shoestring budget to the majority on the forum.

    It gets abbreviated to hifi and there is tendency to forget the word High. I can put spoilers on a Ford Fiesta but its not a Lamborghini is it.

    To clarify matters I see the listings of what people own and I wouldnt consider my mish mash of current equipment to be High Fidelity in that context. Therefore Im not having a go at anybody. Some would call my equipment junk and I cant really argue with them.

    Is it helpful to consider a garage system of I dont know.... Technics amp and Wharfedale diamonds as anywhere near High fidelity? Absolutely not in my opinion.

    My sensiblities go with the British Flat Earth approach. Im not saying Technics and Wharfedale dont make some very nice stuff but to highlight a point, Diamond 1s found at a car boot sale are not High Fidelity items...just saying like

    I think we have to establish what is a High Fidelity system? Is it your computer, dac and headphones. is it your Class A valve amp?.... What is it and where does it start because for some its a never ending journey. When I see designers stood beside mammoth and extremely expensive speakers, I feel they wouldn't be putting all that effort in if the working man had achieved "high fidelity" for shoestring money. Surely the quest for the ultimate in sound reproduction is a good thing even if most of us cant afford it.

    The word is HIGH fidelity as a pose to fidelity or a reasonable sound for the money. Reasonable sounding equipment on a budget is not necessarily high fidelity and dare I say most often isnt. We love a bargain but it gets daft to imply we have achieved the art of sound for 100. Its getting better for the working man and there is a debate about what can be achieved for a reasonable outlay.

    Just my thoughts and its the reason I never give my version of high fidelity on this type of open question.

    Best wishes to everyone on the forum
    Martin
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