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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    No disagreement there - and also far nicer looking/better sounding than any modern SME!

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    No, not really......

    Marco.
    Here is the thing back in the day the HR100 S was good, but the SME 4 and 5 were in my opinion better tonearms. I remember it well and the other Alphason arms.... well they were ok, but the 100 was the best they did and sounded good on a Sonata, but off that the SME's in my view were better sounding. I know many folks disagree but I have a pretty good memory and it was an SME I wanted back then not a 100s. I did plenty of listening as well, I was one of the turntable builders and set up guys back then in a shop that sold all of those brands and more, so set them up multiple times.
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    Each to his own, muchacho. You obviously dig SMEs, which is cool. I don't like any of their designs featuring the use of magnesium armtubes.

    For me, once you've successfully 'tuned into' their distinctive (over-damped) sonic signature, and dislike it, you can hear it no matter what turntable they're fitted to. SME's J-shaped stainless-steel arms, to my ears, give music more 'life'.

    Therefore, the only arms of theirs I rate are the vintage 3009 and 3012 (preferably with SPUs on the end) and the current M2-9 and 12R. The rest, you can keep!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Sorry, daftee, not my thing at all... Looks wise, something like this is more up my street:



    Stax UA-9. Simple, classic, lines!

    Marco.
    Yes indeed, I use a UA-70 on my Denon and have a UA-7 waiting for a worthy tt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Audio Al View Post
    Really it looks pants to me , looks like a rose joint with a tube through it
    Yep I'm with you Al, looks crap, it's just the price that gets you guys drooling.
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    Lol... Paul, you need to dig classic radio station broadcast equipment, to 'get' what the Denon is all about. Trust me though, looks aside (which is a personal thing), that arm, with a DL-103 strapped on the end, fitted to, say, an SP10 in a quality plinth, would sound superb!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Lol... Paul, you need to dig classic radio station broadcast equipment, to 'get' what the Denon is all about. Trust me though, looks aside (which is a personal thing), that arm, with a DL-103 strapped on the end, fitted to, say, an SP10 in a quality plinth, would sound superb!

    Marco.
    i didn't check out the link to the Denon, so thought Al was talking about another arm silly me. I was tempted to bid on a Denon arm recently to try on the Denon dp80 but owning two lovely Stax arms I decided not to. I've heard an SP10 with a decent arm and spu and it was ok. Anyone can throw huge amounts of money at this interest but get very little more than showing off rights. To me those people just look stupid. But each to his own.
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    Sure... The point I was making though, is that in hi-fi there are often specific 'tools' for doing certain jobs, which nothing else can do as well, and that's the case with Denon arms like that, and a DL-103.

    Such high-mass arms really make it sing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Sure... The point I was making though, is that in hi-fi there are often specific 'tools' for doing certain jobs, which nothing else can do as well, and that's the case with Denon arms like that, and a DL-103.

    Such high-mass arms really make it sing!

    Marco.
    point taken Marco. I have a rosewood single point arm that's pretty high mass and a 103r I ought to make the effort and mount it on my arm pod on the DP80.
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