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    Having owned used Most all of the Shures (the worth owning ones) during the 70's.
    Hey! Shures were CHEAP carts ~20$ and it was only 3 or 4$ More to buy the entire cart than their replacement Stylus.. true.
    And parties took their toll of tips .
    Anything below an M75 was Not worth buying, even the 75 was arguable and only when Beer money was in short supply.
    V15's were overpriced and overrated, even then. Typically by Press shills :-). They simply weren't popular choices at their 100$ price tag.
    Stantons flew off the shelves in comparison.
    An M91e/d was a 15's equal at 1/4 the price. Bit later the m95 due to it's new tip design proved a bit more pleasing than the 91's.

    Nostalgia is usually 95% selective memory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danilo View Post
    Anything below an M75 was Not worth buying, even the 75 was arguable and only when Beer money was in short supply.
    V15's were overpriced and overrated, even then. Typically by Press shills :-). They simply weren't popular choices at their 100$ price tag.

    It's difficult to reply to this sort of nonsense without falling foul of forum rules and etiquette.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danilo View Post
    Having owned used Most all of the Shures (the worth owning ones) during the 70's.
    Hey! Shures were CHEAP carts ~20$ and it was only 3 or 4$ More to buy the entire cart than their replacement Stylus.. true.
    And parties took their toll of tips .
    Anything below an M75 was Not worth buying, even the 75 was arguable and only when Beer money was in short supply.
    V15's were overpriced and overrated, even then. Typically by Press shills :-). They simply weren't popular choices at their 100$ price tag.
    Stantons flew off the shelves in comparison.
    An M91e/d was a 15's equal at 1/4 the price. Bit later the m95 due to it's new tip design proved a bit more pleasing than the 91's.

    Nostalgia is usually 95% selective memory.
    Yup. I think I agree with all that. Also, I liked the M91ED and had a couple of them, good cartridge. Never really got on with Stantons or the similar Pickerings. ADC's were favourite American carts though. Still have a few and use them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by narabdela View Post
    It's difficult to reply to this sort of nonsense without falling foul of forum rules and etiquette.
    Actually. You just did Hugh. It's not good form to describe somebody's opinion as nonsense.
    Mr. Tact!

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    Not shure how you can call a m55e as not worth buying
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    M95 with Jico HE stylus is the one I still like to use (and M104 the TPE equivalent), along with a M55E.
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    I had a few M55E's back in the seventies and honestly can't say they left a memorable impression. There again, I didn't like the V15 or V15 II much, main memory is of an uninspired sound. The M91ED and M75ED were happy enough sounding devices though, especially considering the money.
    Mr. Tact!

    Main system: MMs/ADCs/Low output MC's/One rare Japanese SUT/One scarce British phono stage/various tonearms/hefty Japanese DD TT and hefty Japanese BD TT and small British BD TT. 4 CD players/2 jitter buster/2 DACs/Valve buffer. TVC stepped attenuator or valve pre-amp or solid state pre-amp. Current dumping power-amp or either of two Class A SS power-amp or Class A EL34 valve monos or big Japanese (part Class A) integrated. Big dual concentric speakers/Smaller dual concentric speakers/Two way British compacts and full range speakers, amongst others. And too much more to list!

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    Not a p mount but the ultra 500 is top of the tree and my choice over anything else I've owned or heard.
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