Which country has the best hi fi industry in the world

[struth]

Yes you can very much make it in a shed. You can get speaker designs for nothing on the internet, Amplifier circuits also. You don't need an R&D department and a million pound budget. Most of the R&D in hifi is spent trying work out how to do the same thing for less money.

made all mine in the shed. some say with the shed

[walpurgis]

I'm sure I'd spot a calculated wind up if I saw one.

[Marco]

I don't need to buy the greasy burger to know the gourmet one will be better.

Not if one gets to enjoy a gourmet burger for the price of a "greasy" one (to you use your terminology) - and for some of us, that's an everyday occurrence! And I'm more than willing to 'educate' you on that concept at any time of your choosing.

Kirk out

Marco.

[Dynamics]

Doesn't exist Marco and isn't real world. You'd charge more if it was a better burger as people would pay it relative to competition. Remember economic principles to of competitive markets, also price elasticity of demand.

[Macca]

Simon is far from the only person with this outlook. Read other forums and there are lots of enthusiasts out there who have not stepped through the looking glass. I suspect most of the non-technical amongst us us were there at one point. I know I was. There is the picture painted by sales and marketing, and the hi-fi press and some forums - and then there is the reality of it.

[Dynamics]

Yes you can very much make it in a shed. You can get speaker designs for nothing on the internet, Amplifier circuits also. You don't need an R&D department and a million pound budget. Most of the R&D in hifi is spent trying work out how to do the same thing for less money.

You can but you are missing the point martin, is it better sound without a r and d budget, design team, economies of scale of purchasing for best components . I doubt what you say in your last sentence, what if they are redesigning the whole thing as they often do.

[Dynamics]

Simon is far from the only person with this outlook. Read other forums and there are lots of enthusiasts out there who have not stepped through the looking glass. I suspect most of the non-technical amongst us us were there at one point. I know I was. There is the picture painted by sales and marketing, and the hi-fi press and some forums - and then there is the reality of it.

But not the wrong outlook as far as I'm concerned. Maybe we could do a survey.

[Macca]

You can but you are missing the point martin, is it better sound without a r and d budget, design team, economies of scale of purchasing for best components . I doubt what you say in your last sentence, what if they are redesigning the whole thing as they often do.

They will re-design it to make it cheaper to build, or because an oem part gets discontinued. It isn't often the Mk2 is better than the original, it is often worse. There's no advantage to them to improve it, if you want a better amp they will sell you the next one up in the range. That leads us to the ultimate money-maker: The brand's upgrade path.

[hermit]

[farflungstar]

Everything I own except the ANe's and cables are handmade. To me there is no other choice. I want to know the creators hands built it, tested it and listened to it. But that's just me.